Honda Accord Hybrid: 50 MPG City - clone Toyota

i don't know where they're from, but you aren't going to get 50 in the weather around here.

 

I'll bet the weather is very cold for most of these Accord Hybrid posters, but these avg mpg figures are pretty bad ... probably a couple mpgs more than conventional 4 cyl Accord ...

2014 Honda Accord MPG Reports | Fuelly

 

Of the two that noted temperatures, one was at -17C and the other at -4F.
The known locations are Boston, Virginia, Montreal, and San Diego. Guess which one is doing the best.
When reported it is mostly highway miles.
They are all under 2000 miles.

It's too early to draw conclusions.

With the Ford's we were seeing poor numbers from users and reviewers. That isn't the case here.

 

the highway mileage is always the tough one. speed, headwinds and acceration are difficult to convey. most of our driving in the hycam is around town and 55 on the highway. if 90% of your driving is 75 mph, i'm not sure any hybrid is going to make epa numbers even in warm temps.

 

Trollbait, I got my 2011 up to 51 MPG on my 20 minute test drive when the car was spanking new starting with 6 miles on the ODO. During break in over 600 miles, drove in town fully warmed up in Nov/Dec and it was always up in the 50s mpg. .... It's gotten better with over 10k miles on ODO, but it was good on MPGs from new.

These 'under 35' tanks on Acc Hy don't look so good. Maybe these owners are hybrid newbies, maybe leadfoots, who knows.

I really hope the Accord Hybrid doesn't end up a 40 mpg failure on fuelly. Time will tell.

I blasted down to work at 75 mph on freeway for 11 miles, and 1.5 miles on and off freeway, was about 45 F, near sea level. I reset gage and got up to 43.7 indicated after 14 miles. So, yes, 75 mph brings it down.

Conventional 4 cyl much closer to its 30 (or 29) avg than the Hybrids 47 avg ....

2014 Accord Hybrid 2014 Honda Accord MPG Reports | Fuelly

2014 Accord conventional 4 cyl 2014 Honda Accord MPG Reports | Fuelly

Bunch of 2014 Fusion Hybrids avging 39.9. They must be in cold weather too.
2014 Ford Fusion Hybrid MPG Reports | Fuelly

 

when we started going to florida in 2004 in our regular camry, our best mileage was in south carolina. 75 mph and 42 mpg. when we got our 08 hycam, it only went up to 45 mpg. this february, we'll be driving the gen II. i'm not expecting much improvement.

 

Then you need to test drive one then than going by a handful of cars with 2 to 3 fills doing mostly highway. Some of which are in the snow and drastic sub freezing temperatures.

Unlike with the Fusion hybrid, reviewers are actually reporting decent numbers with the Accord.

 

Ok, if it can get up to 44 or 45 MPG averaged out among all posters on fuelly, that would be a great accomplishment for a car that size and weight.

Why 44 or 45? 3rd gen Prius has been at 47 to 48 for years on fuelly, 2 to 3 under its 50 mpg EPA rating.

39 or 40 mpg would mean it's just an expensive car with small trunk and no spare tire. Not too much worth buying over conventional.

 

Agreed.
It is going to take at least through spring to render the verdict.

 

i'm not a fuelly user, is there much reporting of gen II hycam after 2 years on the market?

 

Toyota Camry MPG Reports | Fuelly

 

cool, thanks! you can really see the bump from gen I to II. 40 mpg, if hyacc is significantly better in a year or so, it should sell like hotcakes!

 

Given the Accord Hybrid's poor showing on Fuelly - Track and Compare Your MPG so far, this 2013 Accord conventional owner got 41 mpg highway on a 700 mile trip and has begun to question 'why the Hybrid'?

2014 Honda Accord Hybrid - Drive Accord Honda Forums

 

highway is not hybrid friendly. if someone develops high mpg technology for cruising, it will be fairly popular. diesal is probably the champ right now.

 

I don't know. My car notched it's highest average tanks doing highway driving, in warmer weather of course. I've done a couple of trips where the driving was about 90% or more highway, 300 miles each way, and I achieved 45 mpg average on both trips. I could have gotten better mileage, but in both cases, never went below 70 mph.

Both trips had limited to no wind. The magical points were to maximize downhill and flat terrain mileage, while keeping enough momentum uphill so as not to lug the engine where the hybrid is at it's worst. I had the AC engaged the entire way on both trips. Much of the trip I was averaging 72-75 mph.

My highway commute is much different. Some big inclines, steady more moderate inclines. The return trip is where I make up the difference. Overall, my experience indicates that trying to baby the car at 65 mph and staring at the trip computer is where I get the worst mileage. Now bear in mind I live in hilly Vermont, the results would differ in flatter geography where the lower speeds could milk more mileage.

 

This is conservative?!?!?

 

(1) Look at my signature and tell me the Civic IMA is not capable. (2) The lean-burn Insight carried a SULEV rating, and was rated the #1 cleanest car by greenercars (because of its high MPG it was 5% cleaner than Prius G2). Clearly Honda overcame the NOx issues (basically they used a trap & converted NOx to N2 and O2). And yes aluminum bodies are expensive but likely the future of cars..... automakers keep adding more & more Al parts (engines, hoods, side panels, underlying skeleton, etc).

As for IMA, well, this new 2014 Accord's highway rating is NO better than the highway rating for my Civic with its 12-year-old tech. (And it should be after a decade of research.) It should be getting 50 on the highway.

And a hybrid doesn't need an EV mode. The Priuses' limited 1 mile range is a gimmick that has little useful purpose (and actually lowers MPG over the long term, due to battery recharge). That said: I also expect the constant clutching & unclutching of the 2014 engine will lead to early failure..... similar to what happened with Honda's CVTs. I won't be buying one, and prefer the IMA's simplicity.

Even if my IMA battery dies, the car will still keep running as a pure gasoline vehicle. (Something neither the Prius or this new Accord can do.)

 

regardless of old or current or new technologies. we need to move forward in our life.

the good thing IMA is the car can be driven with broken/died HV battery .

Honda already moves to fully Hybrid. they have their solid reasons to move away from IMA.

I had my believe when was single; kept my car till the end of the world.
this was doable when being a single and do not have family with toddlers to take care especially during weekend and holiday.
I still preferred pre-OBD II aka OBD I. I maintained two cars with OBD I-> Camry 1995 that belonged to my girlfriend(ex actually) and (half-baked) OBD II->1996 Hyundai Accent.
those cars were easy to maintain without too many sensors that can thrown up "check engine" light.

should not we move forward?

 

My average after 22 months is 76 MPG.

It's the same engine, motors, and power-split-device, just switched to a larger battery-pack with a plug.

Attempts to downplay won't work.