Any thoughts on the next generation Prius Plug in??

40-60% is the range of the regular Prius so I think he was referencing that, but you may be right.

 

No, regular Prius is 40-80%.

 

You're right. I'm an idiot. 60% is what it likes to be at.

 

all good points, i probably misremembered.

 

How about 20-25 Ev miles, 55 mpg combined after depletion, with no loss of a seat, space, and have a flat cargo floor.

 

so, complete redesign may mean a way to fit a larger battery without intruding on the cabin. they did a pretty good job reconfiguring them in the gen II hycam without a redesign. or maybe it is a redesign, but seems more cosmetic and hybrid tech than body/chassis.

 

I don't expect a great difference in battery designs for 2015. Maybe with the reboot GenIV.5 in 2018, but not right away. The most I expect is a slightly larger Li-Ion pack for the debut. And that would be fine with me.

 

I talked to the people out at Toyota in Torrance yesterday and asked about an extended range in future PiPs and I was told not any time soon. They don't want to use up any more interior space with bigger batteries and loose the size rating.

 

I am actually happy about this choice. People need to understand it's a hybrid on steroids, not an EV (although some people have short enough commutes to make it one).

 

I wouldn't be surprised if they came out with a 200 mile ev for $45 k. The incentive is here to stay so you get $7,500 off. That would be a $38k Prius electric ? Or would they just rename it and restyle it as a whole new model ?


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If they do a revolution for 4th gen, in my mind that will mean mostly in the body design / shape. That was the BIG change from Gen I to II.

At this point it's a mystery to me as to what they could do to increase the aerodynamic efficiency much while retaining the interior size and versatility. The body seems nearly optimized now.

Should they break the smooth line up the hood / windshield? That would seem to decrease efficiency.

I don't envy Toyota's task with 4th Gen, it's huge. I don't see any car in maybe 10 years approaching the sales of liftback Prius. These midsize sedan, Camry, Fusion hybrids are not going to touch Prius sales because it's simply too easy to step one to the left and pick up a conventional sedan with bigger trunk for $3,500 less.

For all my complaining, Prius is still the best advanced tech car on the planet to date, and I just do a Wth when arriving home with 60 mpg on gage after my 28 mile r/t day.

 

There are absolutely no signs pointing to this happening.

 

2012 Proposed Amendments to the California Zero Emission Vehicle Program Regulations,

 

It's clear to me that an all-battery successor to the Prius would need to be renamed. The name Prius is said to mean "to go before" based on the Latin root "pre". The Prius was named this way because it added a battery and electric motors but was not yet a fully electric car.

Therefore, the new name for an all-battery car might be the Toyota Vicius after the Latin root "vic" which means "to change" or "succession".

Alternatively, it could be the all new Toyota Currius -- after the Latin root "curr" which means "to run", hasten, or travel. It would be a car which runs only on electric current.

Some have speculated that affordable 200+ mile EVs might combine two energy sources or types of batteries -- Lithium Air would provide energy density and Lithium Ion would provide short-term power density.

Marketing experts know that sex sells automobiles. So, perhaps the Toyota Bi-Currius using a combination of both Lithium Air and Lithium Ion cells would help to firm up their marketing position against hot models from Tesla, Nissan, and GM.

 

Ten mile electric range. Less than the 2012.

Next Toyota Prius Plug-In To Have 10 Miles Of Electric Range: Here's Why

 

I think Toyota's focus is on liquid-electrolyte batteries.

Metal-air's not really efficient enough for a primary battery, but its high density would make it a potential BEV range extender.

 

It's more. The 10 miles is in comparison to the 6 miles in fine print on the window sticker.