adding extra 4kw battery for more than double plug in miles

so would i, but i think the chassis has to be redone to accept more batteries which will hopefully come with gen IV. but i don't think toyota is losing out to anyone yet. the future of transportation lies in the stars, whoever guesses correctly will profit. the volt is a great car for those with the right commute, but they won't keep selling them for $25,000. forever. tesla also great, but not for the masses yet. touting their next gen for 2016 doesn't mean it will be realized, though i certainly hope it will.

 

2.5-3x as much if you use the base model

 

How do you know? PHV is a midcycle release. It didn't make sense to go all out, especially knowing there's lots of great feedback to leverage from by limiting the release. After all, that approach worked extremely well with the Classic model.

The next generation isn't too far off when you consider when design finalization must be completed.

 

How do I know?
I know I haven't seen much from them and I have seen better options, for me, from multiple competitors.
I have also seen Toyota downplaying EVs and cutting back previous plans for EVs.

Sure, it is possible they have a superior product in the works. I hope they do as competition drives innovation.

As far as deliverable results, they are definitely dragging their feet.

 

looking at the sales of all ev's and phev's and hybrids, i would say toyota is crushing the competition in hybrids and everything else doesn't add up to a hill of squat.

 

If you could manage a 100amp sub panel, and had the dual chargers, you could charge at or around 20kW's from home !!! I think PC member Efusco is set up with that. Most homes' main service panels won't support that kind of draw though - unfortunately ... especially if you already have central air ... electric oven etc.

 

congrats! did you get hammered on the pip?

 

That's considered level 2 charging.
I decided to wait for the Tesla III in 2018. CEO Musk claims it will have the same range/supercharger capability as the current car, but only $40,000 pricetag.

 

No, he didn't.
The official statements have been that it will be about 20% smaller, have a 200 mile range and a price target of $35k to $40k.

 

I know this thread is a kinda old topic but just saw this Craigslit ad: we are extending range for 2010-2016 Toyota Prius Plug in 4.4kw to 8.8 - auto parts - by owner - vehicle automotive sale

 

Interesting idea. It has the perverse advantage of helping Prime owners to feel better about their available storage space. But I do like the idea of adding to the PiP's range even though that would take about 15 years to pay for itself.

 

just the fact that they list the plug in as 2010-2016 gives me the willy's.

interesting that with all the pictures, they don't show a picture of the finished product. is that because there's no hatch left?
'we can install into any vehicle no charge' is that a play on words?

 

I was going to mention that, too, but got in a hurry. In fact, that was the first thing I noticed. Pretty sloppy web site as well. Hard to take them seriously.

 

I tried to contact them years ago. That's how long ago they started closing down. pretty shocked they'd still have even one store open, but in any event, if you go to there free software created website under testimonials, you'll find zero testimonials. 'nuf said.

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Yup! They didn't even take the time to invent some testimonials.

 

So, the latest ad link by them that I have posted here is a false business. Sorry for that. I was just excited to run my PiP bit longer miles for small additional amount (as my current employer is giving free charging at work ).. but thanks for your thoughts around that ad.

 

Yeah I saw that Ad on CL too

If you want to add more capacity I recommend Plug in Supply since you are local. You can reach out to Robb. I plan to buy PiP shortly and transfer the PIS system I have in my Gen2 2007 touring to PiP.

Regards,
Kishore

 

i'm amazed they are still in business.

 

This is probably a zombie thread but I have to point this out because it's bugging me while reading through this... A 240V EVSE IS level 2 charging. Level 1 is 120V, 2 is 208-240V, 3 is DC quick charging (400-500V).