Can you guys give an honest answer, without plugging in, how good is your mpg? How does it compare? I feel like the EPA has gotten lazy, especially listing the C-Max as better MPG than the Prius V when real world tests show otherwise. So now, I have gotten a lifetime average of 48 mpg with my Prius 2010, through the winters it drops to 40, summers it can get as high as 53 mpg. I hit 58 once.
EPA lists the PiP as 1 mpg higher on the freeway than a regular Prius. If you click on my Fuelly signature, you'll see what fuel economy I get in HV versus EV mode. I enter them in separately. I average about 60 mpg in hybrid mode. However, my HV fuel economy is slightly inflated over a regular Prius because I rarely drive local in HV mode. I use up EV for that portion. Which means almost 100% of my hybrid mode is on the freeway where it is most efficient.
No contest, my 2012 PHV clearly delivers better MPG in HV mode than my 2010 did. The faster warm-up speed and having a Lithium battery instead of NiMH make a noticeable difference.
Trips down to Las Vegas equal 65 mpg at 65 mph with Cruise Control. I believe that beats everything else on the market
As I posted before, I can get 60mpg doing 65 mph driving down to Las Vegas from Sacto with CC. The main problem with a average small commute is, you cannot pick and choose when EV energy will be used. This energy gets used From time to time as the computer(s) determine. You do not have total control. But, overall, the Pip exceeds anything else on the market. As for short trips to the store, it's perfect, in EV . Combine that with a short work commute, charge at both ends and you have the perfect world.
i get 75 to 80 on the mfd, but i was getting 65 in my 08. i'm a slow and careful hypermiler with little highway driving.
I have a 2010 as well. I see better mpg in my PIP. I think this is (mostly) because I don't do short mpg-killing trips in the PIP. I'm not sure why Li-ion vs NiMH makes any difference, other than the kwh capacity. Mike
They supposedly charge and discharge differently. Li-Ions are a bit lighter and more dense. Yeah I think the short trips kill my 2010 Prius. I noticed if I turn the fan off though it behaves a bit better.
In particular, LiIon can charge and discharge at a higher rate than NiMH, lessening the need for the friction brakes and increasing regeneration efficiency.
