How to stop Engine from turning on?

Troy
OK, I'm sorry to have put you on the defensive. I never said I hated anybody or any car. I was simply asking for backup to your original statements about mileage claims on the Civic Hybrid. I even said earlier that I found the mpg figure for your Insight more believable. But you are the one who referenced the "instant mileage bar." If you read back through all your posts and mine, you may understand the conclusions I drew from your statements. I meant no disrespect, and never accused you of being an idiot, or lying, but rather just exaggerating. The two words do not have the same meaning. But each time I asked you for your source for your statements, you throw out some other claim about a different car, or the mileage YOU got. You were the one who opened this thread with a legitimate question. But then switched topics to Honda. It's like being in court; you raise the subject and you open yourself up to cross examination.
Finally, your 89.8 mpg lifetime on your Insight is impressive, but certainly not "+ 20 over even the highest Prius driver". I'm by no means a hypermiler, and my lifetime average since new (14K+ miles) is 83 mpg.

 

If you come to a Prius chat board, to our house, and you make comments like that, I think you can predict the results. I think we have answered your technical question. And John has answered it in spades.

As for any other questions you may have, I refer you to the Charter of PriusChat (which I just wrote 8 seconds ago). It's quite simple:

1. Prius is the best car in the entire world in every way
2. The Chevy Volt is very cool and it's ok to talk about as long as we all agree that it's not as good as Plug-in Prius
3. Tesla is great but too expensive for us
4. The EV-1 was the only car ever greater than Prius, and its demise was a petroleum industry-government conspiracy
5. Every other car in the world is a complete piece of junk

And by the way, your favorite baseball team sucks. Unless they're the Oakland A's.

These rules have bound us together in harmony (except for the Oakland A's part). They may seem alien and strange to you, but they work. It's all for the Greater Good.

 

okay, you had me until that last one. i did enjoy the movie tho!

 

I know! Moneyball was an awesome movie! (You are talking about the Oakland A's, right?)

 

yup, good luck tonight! bartolo colon? seriously? is his number his age?

 

His pitching is fine tonight. Oakland is starting a 20-game winning streak tonight.

EDIT: 8-0 Oakland in the 4th inning. I think we'll keep our pitcher. Looks like you guys pulled your pitcher out already.

 

errrrrrr

 

No, that only confuses matters. (And what computer?) Just use the actual formula:

MPGe = (# EV miles + # HV miles) / ((# kWh / 33.7 kWh) + # gallons)

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wow, keep those issues over in honda land, will ya please?

 

this crow is the best breakfast i've had in a long time.

 

It does not display MPGe values.

It does display kWh quantity.

 

It seems to have gone off topic.

OP, have we answered your question PiP?

 

what was the question again?

 

I guess I made the mistake of taking exactly what Troy said and commenting on those statements. But wait, that's not what he meant..........
I give up.

 

It has always been a scale, where some are more efficient and more clean than others.

Good, Better, Best.

 

I have seen my PHV battery output 55 hp. To put it into perspective, your Insight gas engine is rated 73 hp peak. PiP is heavier so take that into account when you judge how "careful" you'll have to be. The best thing is to go test drive it.

In my daily trip, there is a 6% grade climb. Sometimes, I got caught in the red light and I can accelerate from a stop with no gas engine engaging.

I got my PiP base for $25k after the incentives. I paid about the same price as Prius III which is comparably equipped but without the plug. In a sense, I got the plugin feature for free.