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Got my PHV [Canada]

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by 13Plug, Dec 4, 2012.

  1. lensovet

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    Wow that's weird
     
  2. Tideland Prius

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    Thanks. So no LED DRLs for any Prius models in Canada, never mind that we have it as a law. Oh well.
     
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    We don't typically have all the features available in the US anyway (e.g. no HIDs or leather in the last gen and no Plasmacluster, Entune, LKA, HUD or LED DRLs for the Gen 3)
     
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    But it just seems really wasteful to use high-beams for DRLs, efficiency-wise, no?
     
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    I suspect it's a cost factor. They've dropped the Prius prices in an attempt to boost sales (The Camry Hybrid is our best seller here the last time I checked). The Tech Pack has seen the biggest drop but there was also some decontenting too.

    In 2009, the 2010 Prius ranged from Cdn$27,500-$36,565. In 2013, it's 26,100-$34,185. The actual price of the Technology Package dropped from $9,595 to $8,085.
     
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    I think it is still cheaper to put standard bulb than LED lights.

    The H11 bulbs are 60W @ 80% so 48W x2 = 96Wats for both lights.
    I have replaced the standard "Sylvania 9005 60W" that came from a dealer with 20W Cree LED(4*5W Cree Q5)

    Though, the 20W Cree LED will not illuminate the road like the standard bulbs. If you want visibility, just don't do anything; if you plan on saving the energy they will do the job. But those Cree bulbs are nothing special going with 30-SMD LED H11 bulbs 4W will do the job. So running at 80% they will consume 6.4W/pair
     
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    Don't you need the high beams for the back roads outside the city?
     
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    I hardly venture outside the city :) If I ever go on a highway Low Beam is good enough for me.
     
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    Fair enough.
     
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    I took the Prius Plugin Technology package, so I have the LED headlights with the auto leveling system. I've only driven it once at night, and I am impressed. I expected a narrow beam, and average brightness, but found it to be brighter and wider than any car I have had. The four 'glass bottle' headlights show everything below 3 feet. Above that, there is nothing. At the top of this wall of light there is a rainbow of colours a couple of inches high that you can see when facing a white car or truck. I know it is not a halogen, because the socket plug on the inside of the hood is a gray box with two sets of wires leading into it ( part of the leveling system). I am annoyed that the daytime running lights ( the two rectangular ones closer to the grill) are halogen.

    My only other complain is how the NAVIGATOR in the passenger seat cannot set a new destination on the navigation screen when the car is moving! Has anyone found a way around that? Oh, and I love the space age access to the CD-DVD player! I didn't know it had one for the first five days.

    My wife LOVES the car. You know, like how a man LOVES a Trans-AM? She says she finally gets it! She's never loved a car before, and this is not her first new car.
     
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    congrats and welcome! are you in the u.s.? there is a wor around for the nav. all the best!(y)
     
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    You can use the Voice system to "Find Nearby POI" . Then it asks you if you if you want too set it as a destination. All this while moving. I believe the Voice control is very powerful. There is a learning curve if you are willing to invest the time and frustration. It is capable of amazing feats for the expert (which I am NOT).
     
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    Thanks Big Dude, I'll try talking to it! I now see that there is an $80 hack to enable it while driving, but I will try your solution first.
    I see a few hybrids on the road here in Canada (Toronto), but have yet to see another plugin or a green license plate.
     
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    In Canada daytime running lights are required by law, and AFAIK it's the norm to use high beams for this purpose, abeit at reduced brightness. FWIW, with various vehicles under this regimen, I've never seen a high beam bulb burn out. Basically, anytime you're running with headlights off, the high beams are on, at lower brightness.

    Except of late, at least here in BC, there seems to be a lot of late model cars around, with BC plates, but no lights. Maybe they've relaxed import restrictions??
     
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    Yeah but the 2012 design has LED DRLs built in but Toyota Canada chose not to equip our models with it (yet the US does have it). It just seems a bit odd, that's all.

    I highly doubt it. They probably equipped it, pass the provincial inspection, then take it off. I've seen ways to do it since the inspectors only check to see it comes on when the car is on and the parking brake is released.


    It might be ok in Vancouver but up here, if you don't have DRLs running, you're invisible for the first few seconds compared to the guy in the next lanes with DRLs. The scenario a few weeks confirmed it as the Accord without DRLs was invisible next to the F-150 with his headlights on (6:30am.. so twilight-ish). Obviously the headlights caught my attention so I saw the F-150 first but the Accord in the curb lane (and therefore closer to me as I'm making a left turn), I didn't see until a few seconds later.
     
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    ^ A related issue I've found is turn signals tightly integrated with headlights: they can be virtually invisible beside the headlight glare. I don't know why there's not more research/regulation on this.
     
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    You'd like what Dodge does then, the DRL (headlight) on the signal side turns off while signaling, and turns back on after. The other side stays on for the duration.

    On the Canadian PHV it's no problem, there is enough separation between the DR/headlight and signal lights.

    Also, here in Canada where I am, nearly all vehicles have working DRLs and the cars that don't have DRLs are a danger because they're easy to miss.
     
  18. Tideland Prius

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    What 13Plug said. You'll notice a number of vehicles now that turn off the DRLs when the indicators come on. It's usually because the indicators are right next to the DRLs (be it LED or the high beam).

    Chrysler is one manufacturer. The other two that I can think of right now are Audi and Kia.
     
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    i saw a vdub today with eyebrow led's. when he put his turn signal on, the eybrow would turn off.
     
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    Ontario Canada - Got my $5000 government rebate for my PiP!
    mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/vehicle/electric/electric-vehicles.shtml
     
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