4th generation coming 2015!

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As I understand alternatives to Otto, better efficiency at the cost of peak power is obtained by recirculating piston pressure through the manifold in order to reduce throttle losses. The mechanism is often some version of delayed closure of the valves.

 

To everyone freaking out:

They will not change the Prius design drastically. I repeat, they will not change it drastically.

It's really just business 101. They would not dare change something very much when it is such a cash cow for them and when the look of the Prius is so iconic. Add that to the fact that cars look almost nothing like their initial rendering. Sure, it could look a bit different but I can guarantee you that it won't be drastically changed, so calm down folks.

If you have a 2010, why would you need a 2014 already? Do you drive like 50k a year or something?

 

Miller cycle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So basicly a Prius engine only supercharged, I don't think you gain the efficiency (maybe you loose some?) but you gain low rpm torque. A turbo instead of supercharger would definitely gain some efficiency, but I doubt Toyota is going on a turbo path, we will see.

 

Markabele,
Good question.
My 2010 is almost pristine..... from the front wheel-well back. It does have 70000 miles and in September we will drive it once again across the country, (it's 5th trip) so the miles are adding up. But I recognize that is not that many miles for a Prius. The G3 has been an absolutely perfect car for me in my circumstances.

Of greater concern, however, is about a year and a half ago I ran over a piece of angle iron on the Interstate. It damaged the air dam up front, and broke the front wheel-well liner loose from the front fender. The front sheet metal in front of both front tires, is slowly "tearing" where the iron hit. Secondly, about a year ago a deer ran in front of me and hit a glancing blow to the front end. The deer jumped up and ran away. Neither of these incidents caused sufficient damage to require body work, but the sheet metal is slightly "skewed" with uneven gaps showing between the fender and the left and right of the hood. The damage is not so noticeable from either incident that most people would even see the damage. Additionally, the car is Blizzard Pearl, and I understand that is a color that is near impossible to match.

Then, my grandson needs a car, and there is a lot of miles left in the 2010.

 

OK. I read Wikipedia. I came away with the impression that Atkinson and Miller are somewhat similar, but Miller is associated with super ... and turbo charging. Then GasperG states above ... "I doubt Toyota is going on a turbo path" .... I agree.

Not that I care, but is the presumption that the Pathfinder and the QX50 will be turbocharged?

 

Turbo, supercharger, or battery can all solve the same problem: Lower peak power from designs that delay valve closure.

Just as you would not expect to see a car with both a turbo and a supercharger, we are unlikely to see Turbo or a supercharger in a car with a traction battery unless it was a turbo with a mini traction battery.

 

As long as the next Gen Prius is very aerodynamic ........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL36CF86C6363FF9EA&v=2mDVmiW4UKE&feature=player_detailpage#t=3s

Sim-CEL has Tesla-quick performance, lasers for high beams
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The rear end reminds me of a Citreon (I think that is spelled correctly). Anyone old enough to remember those?

Boy, four A/T ES tires were expensive. I'd hate to buy 8.

 

I think Toyota 'released' this prorotype to fool the competitors. When the real thing comes out,we will be surprised. I guess. This style is totally out of the origina gentle and smoot concept. I don't believe this will be the gen 4.

 

Oops!

 

Oooooohhhhh! I want that 8-wheel AWD version up above there. And then only if it can make that Jetson's flying car sound when it whisks by all my friends and neighbors.

 

Good analysis IMO ^^^

Would any of you guys care to venture a guess about how actual sales prices will compare with MSRP or invoice once these beauties come out a little less than 2 years from now. Will they be hard to find thereby going for a premium? I suppose we would have to go off of history of the Gen3. What happened at the dealerships when they started getting on the lot? Thanks!

 

Personally I think I'm going to hold off on my purchase until the Gen4 comes out. But I live in the middle of the country. Think dealers around here might have it by January 2015?

And roughly when might Toyota makes it's formal announcement of the Gen4 and all the specs and sale price?

 

Well, you get what you pay for.. I've been in my wife's avalon-hybrid the last 3 days and just drove my 2010 prius again.

.. Sorry to say it now feels like a horse and buggy :-( I feel every bump, hear every squeak, as well as road noise. It feels more like a sports car than my prius because of suspension responsiveness and quicker takeoff and us way roomier.

I'm a bit spoiled.... If your looking towards anything resembling a Lexus, check out the 2013 Avalon instead.... A very nice car for 40 mpg.

I hope the Gen 4 will up the quality of ride, otherwise think I'll pass.


Alan.. Sent with Tapatalk 2

 

Once you go comfort it's difficult to return to economy class. Heck, even the camry hybrid is a night and day difference in refinement to the Prius. Maybe Toyota needed to push the envelope more with recent prius generation changes.

 

I hope Gen 4 is released sooner.