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    i had previously put it in the windows/system32 .. now i also put a copy in the install /bin folder as well as the windows/system folder .. using win 7 .... .. now what ?
     
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    the error is " - do i need a newer version of the .dll ? is the priichat2 the right file for installing ?
     

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    Oh he could just replace the rod and piston, get some TIG welding on that block with some aluminum filler and patchwork and be up and running with the same motor in a jiffy .. no problem ...

    (first 30 seconds)
     
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    so, it has boeen a major unfun time removing the lower pan .. which is like permaglued down there .. i dont think that thing would leak if you ran it _with_all 11 fasteners_ removed !!! i had to pry and push and pull and lever my but off for long periods before it gave .... getting pics now .. i dont have it up high and cant really get my eye up in there ...
     
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    - a shot of the CR cap end -- not a whole lot to see -- I was able to get a LED on aflexipble shaft and stick it way up in the cylinder up to the piston but not every one is visible -- its hard to tell if anything is really out of order ...
    - another of the same thing from the other side of block ---
    - blurry shot of the sump - no visible engine block breakage noticed...
     

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    - A clear shot of the sump from a different angle.
    (pan #2 - or lower block? -- aluminum appears fully in tact -- but a die penatrant - magnetometry would tell the full story if hairline cracks exist)

    Without an endescope it is very difficult to stick a camera up in the cylinder -- perhaps the LED can get it to focus up in there and maybe be able to get a clear shot of a full connecting rod ... --

    I have the car tipped over (on 1 side), with 1 hydraulic (in front) and 1 scissor jack (in back) on the side I don't need access to ... with some backup jack stands under neath the up side 1 fr, 1 bk ---
     

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    845 nice clear shot up into the cylinder, (for the part we can see)...
    842 things seem to be intact from this vantage point and visibility...
    834 how u turn the crank from above -- u get the ratchet and 19mm on that 'golden' bolt with a breaker bar attached and u can get a fraction of a turn in with some finagling-- and more awkward jiggle/shake movement of the bar to get the ratchet click back in for the next partial rotation
     

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    Priidash runs in an emulated Linux environment on windows. Read the discussion pages I gave in the earlier post. They describe how to do the somewhat techie Windows installation.

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    is it easier to just install it on Linux / ?
     
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    Thanks for helping! :)

    There are several options:
    For Windows PC:
    This is the "easiest" (relatively speaking) if you don't want to compile the code yourself. You do need to install Cygwin first; just copying a dll won't work. See
    PriiDash(TM) - Enhanced Instrument Panel and Data Logger for the Prius and more
    for details.

    If you don't mind running an old version, you can find a file named "PriiDash2VC_VC2010.exe" here
    PriiDash - Browse /2012-07 add Win32 and Lite versions at SourceForge.net
    that should be able to run under Windows directly without Cygwin.

    For Linus PC:
    You will need to compile from source code. See the same webpage for details

    Feel free to go to the PriiDash sub-forum
    PriiDash (TM) | PriusChat
    to post questions. That's the best way to get support. I don't monitor all the posts on PriusChat.com and just happen to see this one by accident. I do monitor new posts on the PriiDash sub-forum.
     
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    i did do the very liengthy cygwin terminal simulator under win 7 ultimate. it was working ... (the cygwin)
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    ill try the old version now ...


    . it
    Thanks and will do ..!
     
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    I never tried nor had reason to try turning the crank by hand (or by way of ratchet) with the motor off - maybe moved it in nuetral by pushing but even then you would move quickly in the driveway before the ICE came on -- never thought to try it ....
     
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    kind welded up my own tool -- used up 2 welding rods .. about a 2 " piece of angle iron and a stripped out phillips head screwdriver (for the handle) a..and a lot of grinding !! i think screwdrivers, hammer and vicegrips probably were most valuable though ..
     
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    Well I have a scanguage 2 -- and according to their site it gives the hybrid bat state of charge ...
    • Hybrid Battery Charge (for Toyota Prius and Ford Escape)
    • And many more, depending on your vehicle's sensor design
    Anybody using their SG2 to get the SOC ?
     
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    You need to input and load xGauges

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    I hvavent been succesfuly with the priiguage and the ELM323 yet...
     
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    My ScanGauge tells me SOC and battery voltage using xGauges that I loaded into it

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    Jacked it up higher than I had it .. Had a mechanic buddy look at the motor .. we turned the crank back and forth the 1/8 it will ..
    he really wanted to know because u can only see really 2 pistons from the pan 1 and u can kinda see sideways to 3 and 4 .. then he thought it might be up top in the valves so he pulled the valve coveer off and turned each camshaft .. then he knew it was back on the bottom and he was down there with his penlight turning and looknig and then laughing say the crank is broke --- he said down by #4 u could see the counter weight jump when u turn it --- he turned it and I couldn't see any jumping but the connecting rod look split ( he said that was normal) --- something is hitting -- we thought a valve might have jumped ... but he said he could see the #4 crank counterweight 'hop' -- looking through the bottom u can narrowly see the CR cap and the counterweight on #4 ... but I didnt see the 'hop' .. anyway -- something is hitting and binding and preventing crank rotation .. Iwas hopeful it was the top-end where the motor could stay in and be worked on .. -- but the very harsh shock vibration I felt when the car started with the water ingestion would have to be more than just a valve or cam (small movement) .. -- the motor has to be taken out and turned over (and likely the 2nd oil pan removed) to really see what he is talking about .... i did get some more pics but not from the new revelation at the block end of #3 and 4 ....
     
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    u mean priius doenst report a broken crank or cam / valves ???
     
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    finnally got the SOC put into Xguage and it gives me a reading of 26.5