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Re-aimed Foglight - more benefits

Discussion in 'Prius v Technical Discussion' started by ImeanGreen, Feb 24, 2013.

  1. ImeanGreen

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    Decided to reaim the foglights for better visibility. The aiming of the foglights on the V five to me is too low. I'm sure toyota followed SAE standards for aiming foglights. But with the V, our vehicle is already too low to the ground and following the SAE standard does not give us the optimum benefit of having a foglight. To make it useful, I have decidied to reaim the foglight higher. The height of the foglight from the top to the ground was measured to be 15 in. Distance of the foglight to the garage door was 8 feet. Height of foglight cutoff beam was about 5-6 in. high that came from the factory. You can compare the beam cutoff in the picture - left was original and right was reaimed at about 12-13 in. in height. At this adjustment, foglights does not blind incoming drivers. So guys, do yourself a favor. Readjust those foglights and change the bulbs with a putco jet yellow bulbs. This method can be applied to other priuses too.
     

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    How, specifically, did you aim them?
     
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    You have to cover the headlights and parking lights, then turn the adjusting wheel on the back of the foglight housing.
     
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    Thanks, Imeangreen. That is what I'm looking for. Now need to go find OEM Valeo fogs.
     
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    ImeanGreen, that looks like nice cutoffs. However, my Camry SE has OEM foglights from the factory and I can say that the reflector based foglights still throw a lot of light up above the cutoffs as glare.

    To show this, post a video of the same setup and turn your foglights on and off a few times. The area above the cutoffs will show quite a bit of illumination. It doesn't show up when taking still pics.

    The effect can be seen even with the low beam headlights on. Find a dark spot for the test and turn your foglights on and off. You will easily see that the foglights are illuminating areas a lot higher than the cutoffs of even the lowbeam headlights. That IS glare to oncoming drivers.
     
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    Adjusting your foglights higher is increasing glare to oncoming drivers. Here's a partial post from another thread that explains why reflector based lights have glare problems:

     
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    My take on this is that, older designs have have this problem. But modern designs have eliminated this problem. There are many OEM reflector HID headlight housing out there that don't cause glaring and would disagree with you on this one - ex. toyota sienna's with HID reflector housing. The V five's OEM foglights has a very good cutoff beam pattern compared to my regular prius foglight as seen in the pictures. As I have stated, it did not cause glaring to incoming traffic - did the test myself because I am very concern about any glaring.
     
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    Do you know what brand is your camry's foglights? Glare can also be a result of a reflection from the ground depending on surface, distance and angle.
     
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    Does your lower reflector surface have a cutout section, so it is absolutely a non reflective surface? Because that's the only way you would have no stray light coming from a reflector based lamp. A perfect reflector could be built IF you had an ideal single point light source, which a halogen bulb is not, and you could absolutely control the distance the point light source is from the reflector.

    Projectors, when they are properly designed have a big advantage over reflectors because they have the physical cutoff shield which prevents ALL stray light from getting out of the lamp.
     
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    Done. Easy.

    Pulled the 10mm bolt from the top of the fender, then the screw clip below it, then the pop up clip under the fender and then pulled the bumper cover away so I could get at the 8mm adjusting bolts.
     
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    I don't think the valeo's had a cutout in the lower reflector surface. I think what's important is how they designed the reflector housing so it won't cause glaring issues. I test glaring issues with my naked eye by parking the car - vehicle with newly adjusted foglight with it's headlights and foglights on and get my other car(regular prius that is low to the ground) and drive it towards the test vehicle to see if causes any blinding or glaring effect on me. I think this is the best way to test it because you are now actually doing it in a real scenario. If it does not cause any glaring and blinding effect, then it passed the test. My hypothesis to your test with a video recorder with headlights on and truning on the foglights later is simply an increase in lumens or illumination and I'm sure the video recorder will pick it up. It's just like turning one light bulb on and turning on another bulb after 5 or 10 sec. Then you see the effects of an increase in illumination

    I do however agree with you when it comes with projectors headlights.
     
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    I do agree projector is the best but for the beam pattern coming from the Valeo is good enough. I do understand what xliderider saying but i think its an over kill. Alittle more glare added from the fogs wont be too bad. Besides the prius is better than most of the cars on the road.
     
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    Xliderider you may want to check what bulb is in your camery. One time i bought some cheap bulb and it wasnt made properly causing alot of glare.
     
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    They're labeled Valeo Sylvania.

    Approaching a T intersection at night, turning on the foglights will illuminate the side of the house across the street, including the second story wall.
     
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    They have Nokya Arctic Yellow 55w H11 halogen bulbs in them.
     
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    That doesnt sound good. When i get valeo fogs i will see how it works.
     
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    What year model is your camry SE?
     
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    Check my Fuelly.com sig below, 2010.
     
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    In my experience driving in heavy fog (which is dangerous enough), having the fog beam aimed any higher would put a blinding glare in your vision. Fog lights are not designed to increase your actual viewing ability above street level, but alert other drivers that you exist.........any intentional redirection upwards decreases your forward visiblity in heavy fog; like aiming a flashlight in a mirror!
     
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    The re aiming of the foglights were meant to move the beam coverage farther away but not far enough than what the low beams cover. The re-aiming is not parallel to the ground and is still at an angle to avoid glaring problems. I have driven cars(low to the ground) with reaimed foglights and never had any issues with it or have been flashed by incoming dirivers as long as you aim it properly. A flashlight pointed at a mirror is not the same as how the foglights project the light pattern. IMO, as long as you do it right, it won't glare incoming traffic or blind you when driving in heavy fog. As I have stated in my previous post, you test it with your naked eye. Can't get any better than that. I've done this over the years with different vehicles and gave me BETTER visibility in bad weather conditions.