New Man on the Block Needing some Prius Information

1. Re: the regular Prius: see Exclusive: 2012 MY Prius - Changes and Additions | PriusChat (the Prius Two doesn't come w/backup camera though). Also see The Toyota Prius Hybrid models and prices. Try doing Build your Toyota to select the trim level and options on each. Also go thru the 1st 3 tabs of Toyota Prius Hybrid - 2013 Models: Prius Two, Prius Three, Prius Four, Prius Five.

Prius One is basically for fleets only and is de-contented.

2. Prius c: No, there are 4 trim levels. See The Toyota Prius c models and prices. Yes, it is much smaller than the regular Prius aka liftback.
3. Prius v, not V.

4. As for PiP, not sure what you mean by "most of the rebates are gone". What rebates? Factory to dealer incentives/rebates, some state incentive or Federal tax credit? All electric range is EPA rated at 11 miles. Yes, basically, but also under heavy acceleration, the engine will turn on. If you use the heater, the engine may turn on as well, depending on the coolant temperature. It will also need to run once you pass 62 mph. There are a few other cases.

For me, if my Gen 2 Prius were totaled or stolen, I'd be replacing it with either a regular Prius (liftback), PiP base model or Camry Hybrid.

I wouldn't buy the c due to its small size and lightness vs. the rest of the vehicles out there. Although I'm not an advocate of buying the heaviest vehicle, unfortunately, in a multi-car accident, the lighter, smaller vehicle usually ends up 2nd best. Avg. curb weight of vehicles sold in recent model years is over 4000 lbs. Prius c is 2500 lbs. Regular Prius is 3042 lbs., which is still less than other midsized family cars.

I wouldn't buy the v as I don't need the extra room and don't want the mileage hit. I also don't like the speedo in the center.

I'd possibly get the PiP because of the CA carpool lane sticker. I mentioned HyCam as I do miss having a car w/more power and the mileage hit isn't too bad w/the HyCam. 41 mpg combined for a 200 hp (and fairly quick) car is very good.

 

If you have to have a moonroof I would get the standard Prius Model 3 with the roof option. It will cost a lot but you should price all your car options, check out invoice prices online, and hold out for at least invoice. May have to work more than one dealer and take your time. Sleeping in the car might be the deal breaker. Go to the dealer and fold the seat and try it.

 

The various models within the Prius, Prius c and Prius v categories are just packages. Every manufacturer does this. As you go from model 2-5 you add more features. I.e. a Prius Model Five has all of the features of a Model Two plus more.

The Prius, Prius c and Prius v are different cars. The intent is to create very fuel efficient hybrids for as many needs as possible. I.e. a single man/woman living in San Franscisco with limited parking would buy a Prius c because it is small and offers excellent city mpg. A family with larger kids living in a typical suburban community would likely buy a Prius v for the extra room. Make sense?

 

Toyota is trying to line up trim levels between models.
so the Prius Liftback (normal Prius) comes in 2 through 5
The Prius c comes in 1 through 4
The Prius v comes in 2, 3 and 5
The Prius PHV has a model near 3 and a model near 5

In any of these a Trim 1 will be a bare car, Bad fabric, non split rear seats, no smart key
Trim 2 will be the entry level car with sensible options Better fabric, folding split rear seats some electronic goodies
Trim 3 will begin to have Navigation, and other electronics
Trim 4 has everything but leather.
Trim 5 has leather (real or Softex) and is the only model with advanced technology options

I have a v, which is actually the second oldest current model, (the v, and the PHV, and the c are all new in 2012)
even with the head rests on, I find the back seats are almost perfectly flat. I use a cargo mat over the back seats facing backwards to make a large carpeted cargo area.

The PHV (which has the potential of a $2500 Federal credit, unless you do not owe $2500) gets the best gas mileage if you can plug it every so often. (3 hours on 110v GFCI house current, 1.5 hours on more involved 220v installs) If you don't plug it in, it will be about the same as the liftback.
The Liftback gets its best mileage as a highway cruiser.
The c gets its best mileage as a city car.
The v gets 10 MPG less than other Prius, but has cargo room to compete with station wagons and small SUVs.

Here is Utah specific incentives Clean Fuels Program: Vehicle Tax Credit: Rules After 2009
Every Prius seems to qualify.
Clean Fuels Program: Vehicle Tax Credit $605

 

Ha! I finally caught Jimbo!

Model Fours have leather!

Prius and Prius v Model Five has 17" wheels also. Prius c Four gets 16" wheels.

 

In my defense, there is no trim 4 in a v, so I did not research that as well as I should have.

 

The Toyota web site offers comprehensive differences between the versions offered within a specific model..ierius or Prius "c" or Prius "v" etc....just link to the chart to see the differences....

 

If you are inclined to Plug-In Prius check out the thread Price Paid on PiP...but basically you could go out to East Coast eg NY, MD, VA, NJ and try to get a remaining 2012 PiP cheap and drive or ship it back. Many have been doing this as the 2012 PiP was only avails in 14 states with the good deals in the Northeast. Of course you are late to the 2012 PiP party but still seems to be some good price action, last guy said he picked one up near me I think.

I believe both Prius liftback and Prius v lie flat and you can sleep 2, maybe 3 but I am not going to get into the sleeping policy. Our motto here at Prius Chat - "Clean car...clean mind...take your pick!"

 

Your post is difficult to read because you messed up the quoting.

Regarding the missing Prius One. Toyota announced there would be a model I (they used Roman numerals in MY 2010). See Toyota Vehicles : Toyota Announces Prices for 2010 Prius / Toyota. Prius I, and Other News | PriusChat has the details of what the Prius I lacks.

For model year 2011, they switched to spelling out the words instead of using Roman numerals, but they didn't change really anything else. See MY11 Prius | PriusChat.

For '12+, they made a bunch of model changes across models Two thru Five. It's unclear to me what changes if the Prius I info I posted is still correct and frankly, I don't care. It's not so easy for a non-fleet in most of the US to get a Prius One anyway. I don't think you'd find one in stock at most dealers.

As for "why so many models"? Well, Prius Two thru Five are just trim levels, just like many cars have multiple trims like CE, SE, LE, XLE, DX, LX, EX, 1LT, 2LT, LS, LTZ, etc.

Toyota did expand the Prius from just a single vehicle to a family: regular Prius (aka liftback), Prius c, Prius v wagon, and Plug-in Prius.

sums up the family.

The "liftback" is the "regular Prius". If you go to a decent Toyota dealer, you should be able to see and get in all 4 members of the Prius family... well... I'm not sure about the PiP as I don't recall OTOH if it's available in your state.

 

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Can you fix your all your posts and only include the relevant text? The

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Your goofy quoting makes posts difficult to read and I generally skip posts completely that have messed up quotes. It's a waste of time to figure out what's changed/been added inside the quote, which is sometimes nothing.

I'm not sure what your question is again. Again, there are 4 members of the Prius family: liftback (aka regular Prius, which is a hatchback, so I guess that's HB), Prius c (smaller), Prius v wagon (larger) and Plug-in Prius (aka PiP). It's in the ad. Did you watch it?

Each of them really is a hatchback though... Each of them has various trim levels, ranging from One to (some upper bound) and a few exceptions like the Persona Series. The PiP only has two levels: the base model and advanced.

I and others have already answered most of your questions. Click on the links in our posts. You should notice the pointer change to a hand/finger when you mouse over them.

 

Yes, when one clicks Reply, quoting is there. You are free to delete anything or everything within the quote tags or remove ALL of that text, including the

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Please go back and Edit your old posts (by clicking Edit) and remove the irrelevant stuff that makes your posts hard to read. Leave in the stuff (in quote tags, written by others) that IS relevant.

 

I am not clear why we have moved to website technique, but 90% of the time I type in the blank box at the bottom of the page. That has no quoting. If I want some quoting, I use reply and try to cut it down to the sentence I wish to reply to. I reply after my quote.

1) you are free to use Prius Chat as you feel fit.
2) So is everyone else. And that includes not helping when they get confused. I sometime get posters for whom English is a second language and I try to work with that. It is clear that some have no first language, and I get way less helpful. Worse are those who ask a location dependent question but provide no hint as to their location.

 

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Post #4 was the most confusing which was why I spoke up. #13 is confusing too and I don't see why what I wrote there needs to be quoted.

As I said, I generally skip posts where the quoting is really whacked, esp. if the entire post has a quote block and there's nothing outside it.

I'm saying that you should delete unnecessary cruft from your posts and if you wish to quote, please use quoting properly, including making sure you have proper begin quote and end quote tags, the syntax of which I already described and will describe again:

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