Prius EMF Radiation and Toyota's bold face

Yes, non ionizing radiation is non ionizing, and any Faraday cage works, not just solid walls.

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Notice the phenomenal number of weasel word about EHS

Electromagnetic hypersensitivity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

It is interesting that your list includes only symptoms, that cannot be externally verified, and no signs (findings that can be seen or otherwise externally verified and measured). Objective evaluation of symptoms poses obvious challenges in medical science and opportunities for charlatans because they cannot be verified, while observable signs are easily measured and tested. Do you have any evidence-based findings that Prius emits more EMF than conventional cars, or evidence of greater probability for a verifiable disease or health condition (sign) among Prius drivers or passengers?

 

Only if my head is in the microwave.

 

@class, showing a different 'cage' around cables does nothing to show one style is more or less of an issue. What you need to show is measurements in the passenger cabin of emf.

Also, are you aware how much emf is thrown off by spark plugs?

 

Let us all see your hard test data that you have compiled in your extensive testing of the EMF issues regarding the Prius.

We are all waiting!

DBCassidy

 

The size of the openings in a shield determine the frequency of the signals that can get through the holes. One example of this is how AM signals drop out in a tunnel, while FM signals penetrate further. The Toyota engineers obviously chose a shield that blocked the signals that might be a problem.

I think there is some reality to physiological effects of EMF. My impression is that it's rather like noise. Some people are more sensitive to noise than others. Noise, be it sound or EMF, is so pervasive these days that detecting its effects is impossible without some sort of isolation environment for comparison.

Studies of EMF from cars have shown that the Prius is actually quieter than some other cars. I think it was the rear floor of a Chevy Cobalt that was the noisiest in one measure. So if you're really sensitive to such EMF, don't go riding around on the rear floor of a Cobalt...

I think study of the EMF effects on people is a legitimate subject. Until those studies come up with something alarming, I think I'll keep my Prius.

 

...human perception of risk is a funny thing. On the one hand, we all happily accept humongous risks (like driving and smoking) because we feel we are are in control and it is our choice, or we see the $$$ benefit. On the other hand, we can be outraged at infinitessimally small risk or even just a perceived risk, if we feel the risk is being forced on us against our will, and also we really prefer to see $$$ or some other direct benefit if someone wants to impose a risk on us.

In this case, I suspect most Prius owners see the benefit of the Prius in our lives, thus we are not inclined to be swayed by an unsubstantiated suggestion of a perceived risk. Rather we are inclined to support Prius, not blindly, but we will need actual proof.

 

I was thinking about getting one of these:


Now I'll have to get the Prius enhanced version:


Bob Wilson

 

Bob - Are "suppressors" legal for ordinary citizens?

 

With an ATF, eh EMF stamp it is.

 

Not legal in California unless you install a bullet button and limit the magazine to 10.

 

I think the OP should have started his thread by posting a current psychological and neurological profile from a Psychiatric facility. I believe it would give us a better foundation on which we could evaluate his ability to understand basic principles and acceptance of logical and factual concepts, and help him better understand the difference between unicorns and horses, as well as the science of electromagnetic radiation as it relates to the Prius and real world applications. Or not.

 

I suspect the recent $1.2B settlement on run-away acceleration means others will try to . . . hitch a ride. Since the other was a 'class action,' needing the consolidation of independent suits, it is likely this is an attempt to recruit more 'cases.'

You know we're likely getting more EMI discussing this nonsense from our cell phones, wireless phones, screens and laptops than our Prius have ever given us.

Bob Wilson

 

Ah, I thought our last proponent was an astroturfer for Ford.

 

As adults we can weight the risk/reward for ourselves but we may not always consider the impacts on those in our care, like an infant in a child seat. The magnitude of slight impacts in an infant or developing child can be significant and the sources can remain hidden.

 

Risk of what?

 

EMF has real risks, just not at the levels found in any cars.
http://www.icnirp.de/documents/emfgdl.pdf is discussing 100s if not 1000s of times the power densities found in cars. This is like staring into the sun is bad for you so no one should be allowed flashlights.

 

Well if someone has a badly formed, tin foil hat, they might have, by accident, formed a spark-gap receiver:


This is a serious risk as a spark in an environment full of highly flammable, flatulence could end badly. Some of the tin foil hats are potentially risky:

Source: DSC_5145-dani-and-alex-with-tin-foil-hats | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Had this young lady accidentally curved the balled-horns the other way, she could have been a walking, spark-gap receiver.

Yes, these risks of living in a world with high powered, Mexican radio stations covering huge swaths of our country . . . mostly tin-foil hat regions . . . there is such a risk.

Bob Wilson