1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Storing car, how often does it need to be started?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by ksjazzguitar, Dec 12, 2012.

  1. ksjazzguitar

    ksjazzguitar Junior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2012
    5
    0
    0
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    II
    I have to go overseas again. When I did this last time, my wife (who doesn't drive) went out and started the car for me once a week for about five minutes, and rolled it back and forth a little. I assumed this would be sufficient, but the 12V eventually died. This happened twice.

    When I got back, I swapped out the 12V with the Optima drop in replacement (thanks to a lot of what I heard here, thanks) and it is doing fine.

    My question is: How often and for how long does my wife need to start it to keep it healthy?

    Unfortunately, a battery tender is not an option. Is there an easy way for her to cut the battery? (That doesn't involve her crawling through the car to open up the hatch to reattach it?)

    Thanks,
    Kevin
     
  2. SteveLee

    SteveLee Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2012
    645
    180
    0
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    I
    I've read other posts that indicate pushing the button under the steering wheel to turn off the SmartKey resolves this problem when stored, at least for a while. But I'm not sure how long that would be good for. The answer from more knowledgeable members will be interesting.
     
  3. nh7o

    nh7o Off grid since 1980

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2011
    1,686
    340
    0
    Location:
    Hawaii
    Vehicle:
    2009 Prius
    Model:
    II
    Get a solar panel type of battery tender. It is necessary to give the 12V some sort of boost, and desulfation pulse if possible.
     
  4. Patrick Wong

    Patrick Wong DIY Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2008
    18,200
    6,482
    0
    Location:
    Green Valley, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Hi Kevin,

    If your wife is not going to drive the car and it will sit unused, I suggest that you first fully charge up the 12V battery in preparation for the car's storage. Then, disconnect the battery via the following process.

    Open the hood and remove the lid on the main relay/fuse box near the inverter. Press hard on the latch on front of the lid, then pivot the lid up.

    Find the dedicated positive jump start terminal covered by the red plastic cover. Open the cover.

    Use a 10 mm socket to remove the nut on the stud there. Then use long-nose pliers to pull up the cable attached to the stud. Replace the nut, replace the red plastic cover, let the cable sit on top of the red cover, close the relay/fuse lid, close the hood, lock the car and you are done. Your wife will not have to do anything to the car.

    When you return from your trip, reinstall the cable, charge the 12V battery, and the car should be ready to be driven.

    Note that making the Prius READY for five minutes weekly does nothing to help the battery and probably leaves the battery worse off than if you had done nothing - because the drain on the battery from powering up the ECUs may be greater than the charge received over a 5 minute period. If you want to periodically charge the battery via making the car READY, the car should be left READY overnight (i.e., for an 8 hour period) monthly.

    If your car is going to be unused more than 2-3 months then the high voltage traction battery is under some risk of being discharged. Force charge the battery to 7-8 green bars before you put the car in storage, then hopefully you will be good for 6 months. If your storage is longer than that then you will need your wife to make the Prius READY overnight, monthly, to keep the 12V and high voltage batteries in good condition.

    To force charge the traction battery, make the Prius READY, shift to D, press hard on the brake pedal with your left foot so the car remains stationary, floor the accelerator pedal with your right foot, and watch the traction battery SOC gauge on the MFD. As the charge level rises, you will note the engine RPM will automatically decrease. This may overheat the transaxle so performance of this procedure is at your risk. Do not overdo this process.
     
    cwerdna likes this.
  5. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk EGR Fanatic

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    56,678
    39,222
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    Maybe post how long you're going to be gone, will help responders.
     
  6. ksjazzguitar

    ksjazzguitar Junior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2012
    5
    0
    0
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    II


    OK, to catch up.

    SteveLee: I forgot to mention that this is not a Smark Key Prius.

    nh7o: The solar tender would be a great idea, but this is in a covered parking area.

    Mendel Leisk: I will be gone for six months this time.

    Patrick Wong: I am really looking for a formula of how long she needs to start it and how often. Clearly the "five minutes once a week" wasn't working. So, would 30 minutes every two weeks work? Thirty minutes every week?

    Like I said, she goes out and sits in it, backs it up and pulls it in (so the tires don't seize up or deform) and lets it idle for a bit. I just need to know how long. I've considered having her measure the charge on the battery so she can tell if it is gradually degrading.

    Regards,
    Kevin
     
  7. cwerdna

    cwerdna Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2005
    12,544
    2,123
    1
    Location:
    SF Bay Area, CA
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
  8. Patrick Wong

    Patrick Wong DIY Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2008
    18,200
    6,482
    0
    Location:
    Green Valley, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    If you fully-charge the 12V battery before you leave, then I would say that if your wife starts the Prius 2x per month, and leaves it READY for four hours at a time, that will do a good job of keeping both batteries in good condition. I don't know what condition your 12V battery is in and how much capacity it has, so my advice is geared towards the conservative side.

    A 30 minute period might be adequate for the traction battery but is not adequate for the 12V battery. Obviously, this will require you to fill the gas tank before you leave so that your wife does not have to worry about the car running out of fuel while you are gone for six months. Good luck.
     
    cwerdna likes this.
  9. Easiest solution for 6 months is: just let your wife use the Prius. ( when you return, she may not release the car back to you, tho )
     
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  10. Britprius

    Britprius Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2010
    5,194
    1,917
    0
    Location:
    Herefordshire England
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    The HV battery will easily manage a 6 month period without charge providing it is at the five blue or six green bar level when first left. The twelve volt battery should be taken off the car and put on an auto battery tender for the period your away.
     
    Andyprius # 1 likes this.
  11. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk EGR Fanatic

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    56,678
    39,222
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    This is always the best solution, if possible. Cars like to be used, and it doesn't have to be daily: a couple of times a week, or once a week will do. We've done that for relations. I usually end up completely detailing the vehicle too, LOL.