I drove a Volt today.

Ev / PHEV in midwest, coal is burned to create the electricity for the batteries. Seems using coal generated electricity must be o.k. despite increase in emissions. Long drives in the Volt with no recharge over 125 miles, who wants to be running the ice constantly?

It does not make sense (or cents).

DBCassidy

 

If you expect the Cruze to financially break even in about 8 years, what about the Volt?

DBCassidy

 

WOW! How long did it take you to "teach her" to fill a car with gas?

 

Do you ask PIP owners to compare their cars against a Matrix or Corolla?

 

John's in Texas which is, on average, a bit under 40% coal.

 

I charge on an EV subscription which is powered 100% with renewables.

GreenChoice® Austin Energy's Renewable Energy Program

 

Prius is always compared to gasoline cars.

$15,000 premium to save $50 a month hardly makes sense. Cruze spends $80 a month for gas versus $30 a month for the Austin energy renewable energy coop. Help me understand why I should buy a Volt when I can get a Cruze

 

That's $25 for 6 months of unlimited charging! 14 cents per day.

 

Still not worth a 15K premium to save $1,200 a year. It will tab decade to break even

 

Help me understand why I should get a PIP instead of a Corolla?

 

Then I don't understand why you would buy a Prius over a Yaris.

 

Cruz and the Volt is the same platform
Yarris and Prius is not the same platform

 

Why did you buy a Volt and pay $12,000 more than the Cruz when they are identical cars except the volt has an extra engine that is powered by batteries. I know you can answer it. I'm sure that rolled around your head before you signed on the dotted line.

 

I've heard that before but I don't think "platform" is what your thinking. I haven't looked at a Cruze.

 

They are identical except for ev40 components. No worries just asking.

 

Does the Cruze have 4 wheel disc brakes? Not available on the ECO
Does the Cruze have a 149 HP engine with 273 lbs of torque? No, it has a 138 horsepower engine and 123 lbs of torque
Does the cruze have a 1 speed automatic (or CVT)? No
Does the Cruze have capacitive touch screen displays and controls? No
Is the Cruze even in the same ballpark for interior noise levels under operation? No
Does it have RFID keyless entry? No
Are heated mirrors available? No
Is climate control available? No (just single zone knob and button)
Are leather seats available? No
Are heated seats available? No
Does the Cruze have front park assist? Not that I can tell. I think only rear
Are the headlights projectors? No
Are rear view mirror turn signals available? No
Is an automatic dimming rear view mirror available? No
Does the car have vanity mirrors for the driver and passenger? No
Does the car have keyless start? No
Does it have a harddrive for music recording? No
Does it have onstar free for 3 years? No
Do you get your own personal Chevrolet advisor with the car? No

And the obvious and most important:
Can the Eco run without burning any gas? No

 

Prius C and Yarris are based on the same platform..

The cruze and volt share the same frame and a few parts including the ICE engine block. If noone told you it was the same platform, it would not even occur to me as there is not that much in common In terms of quality/fit/finish, etc the cruze is to the Volt like a Prius is to a Lexus..

 

I just took a look and the $17k cruze is the basic manual. Probably should use the $24K with automatic for comparison, so about $8K difference rather than $15K. That's pretty close to the $100/month in fuel savings, not to mention the other additional regular maintenance items with a pure ice like friction brakes, engine oil changes, engine air filters, etc...

 

Well the Prius is a gasoline car. I asked if you go to the plug-in forum and challenge them to compare their savings to a corolla (or whatever). <wink, wink>

Of course, I know you don't. I'm just trying to point out the hypocrisy going on here.