2013 Auris Hybrid Liftback and Sports Tourer Hybrid

I like the Sports Tourer Hybrid

You can see diesel hybrids in Europe from Peugeot:
3008 hybrid 4 gets 6.2 l/100 km (38 MPG)
3008 diesel gets 6.6 l/100 km (36.6 MPG)
Übersicht: Peugeot - 3008 - Spritmonitor.de
Where is the huge improvement? Maybe Peugeot doesn't understand the concept of synergy between ICE and electro motor?

Diesel in Europe is popular because of one simple fact, price for the energy content in fuel:
Diesel: 1.402 EUR/l / 9.853 kWh/l = 0.142 EUR/kWh
Petrol: 1.484 EUR/l / 8.7675 kWh/l = 0.169 EUR/kWh

 

not to mention the price... almost 60% more.

 

Mister MMT - it seems those french guys from your forums like the new Auris or am I being mistaken? Google translation does not pick up subtetlies of most languages... it is like use sledge hammer to write a letter

 

thats the one that i read, whats the other one?

edit: not thats but whats

 

yeah, got it - thanks.

pricing seems ok? hard to figure out if the old pricing on toyota.fr site has big discounts calculated in or not?

Everyone mentioned good feeling steering wheel - it is because they used real nappa leather there . Even that leather across the dash is real. But cant expect Japanese to get everything in the interior perfect though.

I am not sure if you know or not, but from the videos so far, it doesnt seem like there is optitron illumination anymore?

 

yeah, they are cool... I still dont understand why would anyone get Auris HSD over Prius HSD... but oh well, who am I? .

This new one is certainly a lot better overall regardless of trying it out or not, simply because of the trunk.

But for me, it seems price difference is only around €2000 and why would you get old Auris for €2000 less than Prius?

 

yeah... but it all depends on the tuning... i am sure Auris will be comfy, it always was good over bumps.

But new Avensis T27.... pretty bad over a series of holes (not one, but when there are many)... they say facelift fixed that but originally, wasnt a smooth car.... by far the biggest real problem of Avensis.

Since I lived for a bit in the USA, and not your average European (from Croatia), I dont like Wagons at all... I do hope it is good and sells well... it seems to have very low trunk opening which is good.

Anyway, I am glad about this new Auris and Rav4 interiors... hopefully Prius is done in the same way. My wife still says that our 2003 Prius was our best car.

 

my friend, just found two Spanish reviews:
Toyota Auris, presentación y prueba en Cascais (parte 1)
Toyota Auris, presentación y prueba en Portugal. Su referencia son los compactos alemanes

Seem like people who pay attention to things, unlike awful UK press (good or bad, regardless)

 

they seem to like them both of them... apperantly Hybrid is quieter indeed and better suspension - both handling and softer.

 

from CarKeys:

 

I recently quoted this link (Peugeot 3008) in another thread (about VW diesel hybrid). Looking at the 2.0 diesel vs. the 2.0 diesel-hybrid the official numbers from the factory are 5.6 vs. 3.8 l/100km. (42 vs 62mpgUS)
I think it is safe to say it is extremely far from advertised efficiency...

Sorry: back on topic...

BTW, I think I saw this discussion before, but why is it advertised as the first hybrid estate? Why won't they simply call the Prius Wagon (the V?) a station wagon/estate/break???

 

I read the Auris wagon was called the first hybrid estate in the Netherlands iirc, and I think I saw this mentioned on here some months ago too, might have this wrong in my memory though.

I consider the Prius wagon to be an estate/station wagon.

I googled it some more but can now only find "the first station hybrid in its class". So I may simply have overlooked the 'in its class' remark... In that case, disregard my ramblings