Rampant "inaccuracies" about the fuel economy of several of their current vehicles. 6 mpg overrating on the Kia Soul highway? This is really terrible behavior from them. Either they knew better and lied, or they were incompetent. The truth is I recently considered a couple of Hyundai's recently, in great part because of the claimed mileage. I didn't realize a brand could basically make up the EPA number and it was only later that it would potentially get audited. EPA finds Hyundai, Kia overstated gas mileage | Fox News
GM claims 22/32 for the Equinox, but no one gets anywhere near that Chevrolet Equinox MPG Reports | Fuelly Toyota claims 44/40 for the Prius v, owners actually do that Toyota Prius v MPG Reports | Fuelly
I don't see much evidence for your statement. Looking at Fuelly for 2012 there seems to be the full range from 22 - 31 mpg and a significant group getting 25mpg. 2012 Chevrolet Equinox MPG Reports | Fuelly
Did you notice that far from being the median gas mileage, not one owner achieved the Hwy number? Chevrolet Equinox Real World MPG - Car Forums - Edmunds Now look at the Prius v numbers again. In fact, look at the Kia Sportage. (this is a thread about Kia) Kia Cars, SUVs, Crossovers, Minivans, & Future Vehicles | Kia Motors America Kia Sportage MPG Reports | Fuelly some owners are getting the EPA hwy numbers, unlike the Equinox. Not many, but not NONE. Same with the Hyundia Sante Fe, the range of owner MPGs includes the HWY number. It is not unobtainable, like the Equinox. Hyundai Santa Fe 2013 | Review Specs Features & Prices | Hyundai Hyundai Santa Fe MPG Reports | Fuelly
This one seems to be, 48 mpg in September (wow). equinox (Chevrolet Equinox) | Fuelly It looks like the same owner also has a Prius so maybe they have learned how to drive to achieve better fuel economy.
Odd when I look at it it says he averaged 30.2 (still very impressive in an Equinox, but not the EPA number) EPA numbers are estimates, but if no owner of your vehicle can get your estimate, something is fishy. 2010 Chevrolet Equinox LT – Instrumented Test – Car and Driver
I know people say the equinox is hard to hit its numbers, but has it actually been audited by EPA and they're like "Hold on guys, you're just making numbers up here."? Because that's what Kia/hyundai have done. If a car is legitimately following test protocol then any number it comes out, regardless of how it actually is in the real-world, is what they will go with (and that makes sense).
I do not know that the EPA has ever audited any GM estimates. That was my point, actually. Kia got caught because no Congressman is going to complain if the EPA catches them cheating. GM is a different can of worms for the EPA.
Every car maker supplies the EPA with the results of their own tests. Only under rare occasions does the EPA attempt to confirm those tests. A car company that no Congress member has in their home district is one of the those rare occasions. I do not expect to see that GM was audited, let alone that GM was audited and reprimanded. I wish I believed that was because GM was honest. Sadly, we know how honest they are.
You don't think there might be something fishy with a two fuel-ups suddenly being twice the miles? With more city miles than the previous two (one of which is suspiciously low)? 58.8 MPG doesn't sound a bit out of whack? My suspicion is that a couple of fuel-ups were missed.
That graphic proves that GM is dishonest, at least at times. It really is a shameful thing they tried to pull there. However, I believe that GM and most brands are pretty accurate with their EPA. This article said that it's pretty rare for an audit to find issues, so for a vehicle like the equinox that many have complained about, I bet that its EPA is actually pretty good and if anything the EPA test needs to be updated.
I don't know anything about the Equinox. Jimbo pulled this data as an example to support his earlier statement. I wouldn't have used Fuelly as a data point, for a number of reasons, but Jimbo was providing the example.
Please don't ask that. We all know how dishonest it is. Here is hint, though: my car gets infinity MPG.
My Volt's lifetime MPG is 241, so I guess I don't understand where the dishonesty is. It seems obvious, atleast to me, they were talking about a Plug-In.
