I think the only vehicle that would have a hard time competing is the v. All the other Prii models and years are competitive. We could break it down into the models but I think a top 10 instead of 20 would make tracking easier. I don't know. Let's hear what the others have to say. Since we have not even filled the list I'm not sure there is interest or there is a lack of interest because no one can compete with our top guys?
It would just require Justin to post in all the forums. He's kind of a Prius Social Butterfly anyhow....he'd probably do it.
It would require a mod to post the main link as a sticky like they did with my LRR tire thread. That way everyone is directed to a single thread.
I am just trying to get enough miles to photo and submit for the threading hope to be 70+ for the tank weather is all over the place cold mild rain etc
I like this...then even the Plug In guys could have a Top 10, but we still couldn't let them be in the Top 20.
Excuse me in advance for this comment, but letting the Plug In guys in the top 20 would be like comparing dildos and vibrators!
Yes, when the forum upgraded I lost my old Gen II blue prius avatar and couldn't find a avatar to replace it with so I cropped a photo of the newer car. I like the Blue Ribbon metallic way better than the old Gen II light blue (that I've never bothered to learn the name of). I'm not sure if Blue Ribbon metallic is on C, v, and liftback but it'd be my color of choice if I ever grab a newer Prius. As to civility I have learned to reign in my impulses, I'm less Klingon/Romulan more Vulcan now.
We have a PiP and I'd say don't let the PiPs in on a top 20 list. It is just a measure of the short trip to long trip ratio. Fill the top 20 first for all cars excluding PiPs and if you actually get more than 20, then decide what to do. Hopefully, there are not that many people obsessive enough to get 70+ mpgs. Tom
I don't think anyone was suggesting they should be in the Top 20. And hopefully there are tons of people obsessive!!!
Certainly there is something to admire with sturdiness and aggressiveness of the Klingon Race....., but she is more cold and logical. I think she would be dangerously sexy if she were a bit more ....evil.....
It'll just read 999 ten times. For 500 miles, there is no tank anxiety - just rotting fuel anxiety. Let's see - that would be about 40 to 50 plug events if fully depleted, or maybe 100 plug-ins to make sure the battery stayed full. Now that would be obsessive.
Only if we are lucky! With a 14 mile range (or so) it would be hard to hold 99 mpg for 500 miles. Some of the best tanks for the PIP's on Fuelly are in the low to mid 100's.
Fuel anxiety is lessen on a Plug in Prius (PiP) because it displays additional details on fuel efficiency breaking down fuel efficiency and usage by gas and by electricity. For all but the round trip commuting routes which are less than 12 miles, the lack of recharging station infrastructure mainly limits the PiP logistics to recharging at home(overnight). This translates to the PiP being less of a BEV more of a super-hybrid - for most driving situations. So what is challenging if not difficult to do for a regular Prius (e.g. get over 70 mpg and go over 800 miles per tank) should entry point for a PiP (even with the PiP's smaller 10.6 gallon gas tank) and what seems impossible (e.g. get over 80 mpg and go over 900 miles per tank) on a regular Prius/Prius c - should be possible with some effort. Given the reported FE of 2nd gen Prius with Li-ion plug-in conversion kits, I would expect that a 3rd gen PiP should be able to get about 120 mpg in a hypermiling marathlon all day trip scenario. During the summer time with +15 mile one way daily commuting trip scenarios get +90 mpg per tank if it were aggressively hypermiled using 100% gas (e.g. 900-1000 mile/tank). If the initial hypermiling reports on the Nissan Leaf are accurate - hypermiling an electric motor/battery can increase the electric only range from 50% to 100% (e.g. 4 miles per kilowatthour to 6 to 8 miles per kilowatt hour). If one uses the fuel efficiency distribution chart of the 70 Plug in Prius on fuelly*com, the fuel efficiency range is from 43 to 97 miles per gallon with a rather flat distribution curve. This suggest that the Plug in Prius fuel effiency is even more sensitive to driving style and driving environments than the regular Prius liftback hybrid. Roughly it appears as if the 80% mark ( 3.0/4.0 grade for fuel efficiency skill) is about 80 mpg and a 90% mark would be somewhere about 88 mpg (atleast for summer time only driving conditions since this chart does not reflect all year round driving environments). This means that if the Plug-in Prius has about a 10 gallon tank then +800 mile/tank would be above average and +900 mile/tank would be excellent.
