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Anyone notice increased MPG's from non c vehicles?

Discussion in 'Prius c Fuel Economy' started by frugaldriver, Oct 7, 2012.

  1. ItsNotAboutTheMoney

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    With newer cars having electronic ignition and fuel injection anything more than 10 seconds is often enough to justify turning the engine off and starter motor wear isn't a concern.

    In some vehicles simply being in N at a stop will help cut idle mileage a bit..

    Of course if you're in a drive-through line it's very likely better to park and go inside. Just make sure you don't park where you can be trapped by the line.

    (My improved mileage in our Civic came from hypermiling).
     
  2. frugaldriver

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    I guess I do not know how the c does in passing, I cant imagine very well, but as my driving has mellowed I find the need to be less (especially in town). unless in the rare case that I need to pass a combine on a country road, the time saved from passing a 65 mph vehicle to go 70 is minimal (unless your commute is 100+ miles). And even then, passing is usually on a 2+ lane highway, therefore possible no matter how much torque that you have in the vehicle (as long as you can accelerate to that 70mph). Gas prices are only going to continue to rise (in Europe they have been at $8+ per gallon for years, when I visited Scotland it was very difficult to find anyone driving a pickup truck) so I would stress that everyone learns to drive their current vehicles, be it hybrid or not, more efficiently. You will thank yourself in the end.
     
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    It's always a judgement call. Depends on the people behind me and if I can get a feel for how fast or slow the line is moving.

    I suppose it doesn't bode well for usual customer service and speed, but usually I think I'm better off turning my engine off.

    It is a judgement call, and sometimes I turn the engine off and the line starts moving....but usually I think I'm ending up on the "benefit" side of the equation far more often than the "this is tough on my starter" side of the equation.

    I would say overall the greatest benefit to my gas savings that has come as a result of the "hybrid" awareness and hyperdriving skills knowledge- is simply awareness.

    I find that simply caring about MPG's and being aware of how I am driving, makes a big difference in of itself. Turning my engine off at drive-thru's? May be more of a psychological benefit to myself more than anything else, but I'd rather sit for 1-5 minutes without my engine running, than sit the same period of time with it running.
     
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    Out of curiosity, how much do you improve your MPG's by not allowing the car to idle for more than a minute? Do you do it at stoplights? I would understand the obvious application of a railroad crossing, but when would be a time when you would shut the engine off in just normal every day driving (excluding the above mentioned drive through line)?
     
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    Driving a Non-Hybrid, non HSD vehicle, I do NOT turn of my engine in any "normal" driving application. I think it's just too dangerous.

    I do have to try to make an on the spot judgement call. It's almost like being in a massive traffic jam. If I'm in a drive thru line...that has completely stopped, and it appears their is going to be a wait of a minute or longer, I'll turn my engine off.

    I would say I don't improve my MPG's at all by turning off the engine. What I do? Is NOT burn gasoline for whatever period of time I'm sitting in one spot. If it turns out to be a minute? Not much was saved. If something has gone wrong, or the vehicle at the head of the line is ordering for an entire Baseball team? Then I've saved some gas.

    In anycase, I think my admission that I do this in drive thru line now as a result of a heightened hybrid awareness, is being blown out of proportion. What it really boils down to is deciding to turn my engine off, when I'm not going anywhere. In a drive thru, I feel I can get away with this decision. In any other application? Well I would recommend any "standard" vehicle keep their engine running.
     
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    ^ Thanks, just wondered if there would be any gas savings to this. I know of a person who, when pulling into a driveway or parking lot, will turn the car off and coast into the spot. That makes some sense as you already have some momentum, but I think if there would be any savings to that it would be minimal.
     
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    Well, been getting 43 MPG the last couple tanks on my 03 toyota matrix which is nearly 8-10 MPG better than before I incorporated my hybrid driving. I have been normally driving 58 MPH max in the city with lots of stop lights and /country highway road in florida. I think the biggest gains for me is coasting to a light/breaking early to continue rolling momentium possibly thru the light and also driving slower, easier on the throttle.
     
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    This weekend I'm going to be driving a friend's decade-old Volvo XC70 which inexplicably has fuel consumption displays. I'm not sure if I'll be able to implement any of my good driving habits or if I'll be too busy laughing at its absurdly offensive consumption figures. :ROFLMAO::rolleyes:
     
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    Nice improvement! :notworthy: That's a little fast for city driving don't you think :) ?
     
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    Good point, but the speed limit is 65MPH between the cities I commute in and is probably an 8-9 mile stretch, then slows to 55MPH and slower. I am driving the speed limit or less on my commute.
     
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    So is 55-65 mph the "butter zone" for highway MPG in the Prius c? What kind of figures do you regularly get at those mph's? This last question can be open to anyone. Also is there a butter zone speed in town? I assume that good results will be seen from just not driving aggressively, not necessarily driving below posted speed (similar to my current driving style, I still go the speed limit, just reach it a little later than the hot rods out there). Thanks!
     
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    I always had a light foot when driving. During the mid 90's I had a 1994Honda
    Civic VX 5-speed manual. This is the quite rare Civic that was EPA rated at I believe
    56 MPH Highway on the old standard.

    During the summer with dry roads my dad and I took a round trip fishing day and I drove conservatively to get maximum MPG's. I filled up to the brim and returned after about 150 miles to the same station and again filled up. The results were 66 MPG calculated. Speed ranged around 55 mph to 45 mph.

    My normal mpg's during the summer was about 52 mpg....
     
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    I would love to find one of those cars, I've heard about the stellar MPG's from that model year. Apparently they are quite rare to find nowadays because they are a favorite of modifiers. Its a shame that Honda didn't keep going with that engine and body, they would be the reigning champion of fuel MPG's if they did. The only "downside" that I have heard of those cars was that they were noisy in the interior while driving. To me that would be a minor inconvenience compared to the MPG's produced.
     
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    Yes, that VX was a great car and in 2002 when I purchased my new VW Jetta TDI Wagon I gave the car to my
    dad, it had over 200,000 miles on it then. The car eventually went to my niece and nephew and then
    to my brother and the last I heard of it there was over 300,000 miles on it when he gave it to one
    of his friends.

    I could not agree more with you. If Honda kept on that path hybrids would probably not be needed and
    they would be leader of the pack on MPG's.....
     
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    I've actually been saying this same thing to everyone now that I have the Prius... just "witnessing" in real-time how your driving behavior affects mileage really makes a difference in deciding to "gun it" for no reason or just keep it slow when you see that you'll be coming to a full stop down the road anyway.

    That sort of efficient driving would affect anyone's gas mileage hybrid or not, and I think many drivers interested in economy (at least some of the time) would take notice and change their behavior.
     
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    So, do you have any other vehicles that have benefited from driving your Prius (very envious of your ownership btw)? I wonder because it would stand to reason that people would garner efficient driving techniques from trying to maximize mileage on their Prii. Not all techniques would work on others but some will, i'm just wondering how much of a difference those techniques make in real world figures. Thanks for everyone's replies.