PIP does not charge the plug in battery while driving

kind loving sweet thoughtfully written words of grace and peacefulness approaching ... fyi, on the web, 'troll' references one who writes in order to INITIATE negativity. NOW ... if a newbie or anyone else truly has an inquiry, one will read (for example):
"...here's an article stating the PiP can't regen its traction pack. Is that true?? Gee, that seems odd".
But if one writes as fact, that PiP's can't regen, and reference an atricle as proof ... the latter will typically be construed , by any objective standard, to be trolling for a response .... not the folks who respond. So in the present matter, responding (in so many words) with, "that's not a production PiP" - is not trolling ... and in fact, it's the reason some thought you were labeling the OP a troll. That said, very sorry someone was tough on you for a miss-posted topic. Here's to hoping that imperfectly worded blogs/responses are the toughest part of our life. Just wanted to clearly articulate that, in the meekest softest gentlest way possible. How'd I do.

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as i am sure many will state. charging your battery with gasoline is much less efficient than charging from the wall in your home

 

ever the peacemaker, well said.

 

Yes and it's wrong. That article is outdated. If you search my post history you can see I wrote a report how on a trip I started with an empty battery and came back with 5 miles of range despite never plugging into an outlet.

 

no. but here's the rub. if you live in a flat area, you can drive farther on a charge. even though you don't recharge much, you don't lose much to uphills either. if you live in hilly territory, you will eat up more charge going uphill than you gain downhill. so it's great that pip recharges, but us flatlanders are better off.

 

Once the plug-capacity is depleted, the system reverts to ordinary 50 MPG Prius operation.

Not doing that would cancel out the benefit of having a plug.

 

John this is wrong. After battery is depleted you are able to recharge the battery under specific conditions, such as significant elevation changes. The PiP doesn't just become a regular Prius after full battery depletion.

 

sure it does. they both recharge the battery when gliding and braking, the pip just has more capacity where the non pip might fill up the battery under the circumstances you speak of. pretty unusual circumstances though...

 

Unusual? There was nothing unusual about my driving when I ended up regening close to 8 miles on this trip: Yes, you can charge the battery while driving: my plug-in experience | PriusChat

 

the terrain is unusual, at least for us flatlanders. but you guys have to go up as many hills as you go down. i think.

 

Adverness, Isn't that in Scotland. Oh that's right, Inverness , that's to be a contrarian.

 

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Yeah I mean the net elevation change is zero, we came back to where we started — our house, lol.

 

A regular Prius will do the same thing.

When you drive down an elevation change, it will continue to recharge until the maximum battery-capacity is reached.

 

The Prius doesn't use gasoline to charge it's battery, it uses kinetic energy. If you roll down a big enough hill/mountain, you will recharge the battery.

 

of course, but because the maximum battery capacity in the PiP is higher, you can charge more, and thus deplete more later, and actually get better fuel economy.
Rebound's mileage numbers seem to show this pretty well.

 

sure it uses gas - it's just that it also uses regen - just like a regular Prius regen's.

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No, I think this should be cleared up -- the gasoline engine in a Prius does not charge the battery, in any Prius model. It is the car's forward rolling motion which charges the battery. This is a direct result of using gasoline to propel the car forward, of course, but gasoline isn't burned to charge the battery.

 

maybe I can help you understand by example, how the ICE does in fact - all on its own, can regen. Imagine your traction pack shows empty, as it sometimes can. In fact, you can help run the pack down just sitting there in ready mode ... and if the AC is on pack depletion will happen even quicker. You're sitting there in park. What happens once the pack is depleted. That's right, the ice comes on ... and guess why - and guess what it's beginning to do ... even though you're just sitting there.

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