Heater and climate control

Whatever setting I left it at when I shut the car off, that's the setting when I start it up again. I don't see why, but maybe the PIP is different.

 

so if the outside temp dropped, and it got cooler than 75 in the car, would the heat come on?

 

Yep, the system would do what's necessary to maintain the setting.

 

My Cadillacs had automatic HVAC systems and they woudn't blast heat until the system hit a preset level. I wonder if this system does that.

 

makes sense, but if the ice doesn't fire, 'she ain't never gonna get there'.

 

That's probably why the heating grids were stuck in there. My TDIs had them too because diesels take some time to start throwing off heat.

 

well, i just thru the manual. nothing at all about heat. there are more pages dedicated to 'remote a/c' than anything else. i suppose they figure we should know how to use heat after all these years? RD, are you sure the ice didn't fire and you thought it didn't because no heat was coming out? it does say 'immediately after AUTO is pressed, fan may stop until warm air is ready to flow'.

 

That's exactly what the Caddys do on AUTO.

 

That's the only way you're going to get any heat without the ICE warming up. In the standard GenIII, they come on when the temp control is all the way up.

 

I was curious so went out to my PiP in the garage. Inside the garage (according to the car) was 68. Inside the car (according to scan gauge) it was 64.8. I hit auto, increased the temp to 85, and the fan speed to Hi. The ICE didn't come on just as Rockerdan reported.

The only change I noticed was after my overnight charge the EV miles said 14.2 and whenever I hit auto to turn on the fan, the reading went down to 12.5. Turn off by auto and immediately back up to 14.2. On 12.5, off 14.2.

I also played with the fan speed while on the upper dash vents ... and there was zero heat. So I'm thinking there aren't any electric grids either in the PiP.

 

Check the readouts with and without the temp all the way up. The grids should have a pretty big draw.

 

Ok...you convinced me to go out again....lol. From 14.2 to 12.5 does seem excessive.

I put a digital thermometer into the dash vent. Hit auto. Fan came on and I didn't notice the AC lit up. I heard the compressor cycle on and off a few times but didn't realized at the time it was the compressor. I was watching the EV miles and it never changed from 12.5, with the compressor off or on. I then noticed the AC was lit. And the vent temp was 50.x. I turned off the AC and set the temp at 65, around interior temp but 4 degrees higher than ambient in the garage.

The dash vent temp went up to 63. I increased the temp to Hi. And the dash vent temp DID go up 68 and stopped there. I turned the heater temp back down to 65 and the vent temp dropped to 63 again. And I could hear a difference in the fan speed. The 12.5 EV miles did drop to 12.3 by the time I'd finished. And once I turned off the fan it only went back up to 13.8.

So you've convinced me there is some kinda electric grid that's coming on. It doesn't provide much heat ... just enough to take the chill off.

This wasn't very scientific ... partly because I was freezing and my hand was cold from holding the thermometer in the vent so I rushed it. Perhaps the thermometer would have been lower or higher with patience.

 

Im sure we will start seeing more of these threads as the cooler winter weather approaches....

I have had this idea since I purchased my pip. I wonder if there is an AC or DC powered heater that can be sat on a seat or in the rear hatch that will heat the car. If its AC then we would need to install a power inverter. If it had a remote that would be pretty nice feature too. Remote climate control without starting the car. Me likes

Obviously there would be concerns about running the 12v battery down. The user would have to look at how many watts the heater consumes.

 

i have to disagree that outside temp has to be below 59 for the ice to come on. that's just too cold for us seniors!

 

Thanks Dan ... do not know how accurate it was though.

And bisco ... you're right. Aging takes lots of heat....lol. Not only are we in the SS crowd, both my wife and I are on diets trying to lose weight for our upcoming cruises. Less carbs = less body heat.

The lil ole PiP will be complaining about the extra weight it's hauling back from Miami.