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  1. CPSDarren

    CPSDarren CPS Technician

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    I have a Prius V for review this week and may be able to help with any questions. I have a small number of child restraints on hand for testing. Also interested in any feedback regarding good or bad things you've noticed in regard to carseats and kids in general. Thanks!
     
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    Please take a picture of 2 car seats in the rear and a rear-middle passenger, if it is at all possible.

    Thanks.
     
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    What type of carseats or does it matter?
     
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    If you could review how well the Recaro ProRide Convertible car seat fits in a V, that would be great!
     
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    I apologize but the only Recaro model I have on hand is the ProSport.

     
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    An average adult male does not have even close to adequate head restraint in the rear middle. Plus, hip and shoulder room will be an issue with a car seat on either side. Less of an issue than in a regular Prius, but still difficult. I'm only 5'10" and even aside from the head restraint issue, the narrowest carseats would still make it a tight squeeze tolerable for a very short trip.

    On the other hand, if the intent is to have an adult in back watching a baby, for example, you could fit a shorter person in the center rear seat. The head restraint might be adequate then. With a relatively narrow infant carrier on one side and something like a Safety 1st Go Hybrid for a 2-7 year old on the other side, a teen, pre-teen or smaller woman might have just enough room to keep the two kids occupied. My 11 year-old daughter can fit there in this setup, but my 13-year old son was just a bit too tall for the head restraint at 5'4". He did have enough hip and shoulder room, though. I could barely squeeze in, too.
     
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    An convertable car seat in the middle and the driver's side reat seat. I'm short enough that it should work, I jsut would like to see.
     
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    If you choose carefully, you can even fit two rear-facing convertibles side-by-side and even have just enough legroom up front for a 5'10" driver like me. If you are shorter, then you could move the rear seat forward a bit for more cargo space if needed. The main problem is that the shoulder belt for the seat installed in the middle is going to be a potential annoyance for anyone sitting behind the passenger. This is the case with the Sunshine Kids or Diono Radian I have in the middle. It's one of the narrower seats that tends to puzzle well next to others, but it took a little effort to get it installed correctly. Next to it is the new Graco Size4Me 70. It's a larger convertible, but since it installed more upright than the Radian, they happened to fit well next to each other.
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    I just want 3 booster seats in the back row. Considering buying three nania highrides so I can carpool. This is a common issue, and if Toyota is after the SUV family "soccer mom" with the V then it would be great if they could figure this out. If prius came up with their own backless booster with a latch system I would be in heaven.
     
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    You could LATCH in two Britax Parkway SGL (in backless mode if you prefer) on the outboard seats and use the narrow BubbleBum booster in the center.
     
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    Last chance for questions. Still seeking feedback on any issues parents have noted with seating kids in back.
     
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    Don't have kids yet, but probably will within a few weeks! (My wife is 35 weeks pregnant with twins... Identical boys...) Just wanted to mention that we bought the v specifically because it would fit two rear-facing seats in the back. Our previous car (Scion xD) definitely would NOT have allowed me to fit in the driver's seat with a rear-facer behind me! We took our infant seats (Graco Snugride 22's) to the dealership - that was our first criteria for a new vehicle. :)
    With the rear-facing seat in a base behind me, I had to slide the v's driver's seat forward a few clicks, but I still found it comfortable. Without the base, I gained an extra ~1" of room. Either way, this works for me. I assume once we get to front-facing seats, I'll be able to slide the driver's seat all the way back again.

    I did use the v to transport 3 adults + 2 kids in carseats, and it worked fine. My sister-in-law sat in back between two child seats (one RF, one FF) - while she definitely didn't have a lot of room, it worked for the hour or so we had to travel from the airport.

    I'd be curious to hear your thoughts/suggestions on which convertible seats work well in the v. Any that are particularly easy to fit? Which allow most front-seat legroom when used rear-facing?

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    Congrats on the impending arrivals! One comment first, the original Graco Snugride (22) works well for full term newborns. Unfortunately, it isn't one of the better infant seats fitting low birthweight newborns, including preemies and usually multiples. If you do find that the harness cannot be adjusted adequately to fit and just seems too large in terms of the height and tightness of the harness straps, feel free to contact me for some other recommendations. Every baby is different in proportions, so you may not have an issue at all, of course.

    As for convertibles, I tried a Britax G3 convertible and it allows for adequate legroom up front, especially when a little more upright for babies over 4-6 months who no longer need a full 45 degree recline. It was very easy to install in the outboard seats. I'll have some photos when I finish my review of the V at carseatblog.com. I also tried the Graco Size4Me 70 and Diono (Sunshine Kids) Radian. They take up more room, especially the Radian, but the tradeoff is that you can use them longer both rear-facing and forward-facing before the height limit is reached. The Radian is a model that fits better in the center so it puzzles between the front seats and doesn't consume as much legroom. It's a little more difficult to install, but it is narrow enough that it may allow other seats to fit next to it more easily.
     
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    Thanks for the suggestions! I'll keep an eye on the carseat blog.
    As for low birthweight, that's always a possibility, and I'll get in touch if we need some help there. Fortunately, the current weight estimates are just over 5-1/2 pounds each, both heartbeats are healthy, and my wife is still going strong! So not super-tiny, at least. Despite my wife's current size and comfort level, we're both really hoping for big healthy babies we can bring home right away!
    I do have one question about the various pads/positioners that are available to fit into carseats. We received a pair of "Snuzzlers" as a gift. Are these useful in protecting or properly positioning the baby, or are they just gimicky, or even potentially harmful? I know you're not supposed to put any extra padded stuff like this in the crib, but it seems like a car seat is a different situation. Thanks for your opinions.
    Fortunately we have a little while before making a decision on convertible carseats, but I'm trying to do some research now, as I'm sure I'll have less time once babies are here. Any convertible seats (or styles) we should stay away from?
    Thanks again,
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    If they are not included with the carseat or approved (crash tested) by the manufacturer, I would recommend against using them, especially for a newborn or low birthweight infant. The potential risk ranges from minimal to serious, depending on the product and the child.

    The main issue with any aftermarket accessory of this type is that some designs can affect the fit of the harness, causing it to appear tight. In a crash, the stuffing will compress, possibly allowing the child to be ejected from the harness. The second issue is that accessories that add even a small amount of padding behind the head can increase the risk of a breathing obstruction if a newborn's head flops forward for an extended period of time. This is an increased risk for a low birthweight infant and also why infant seats need to be installed close to a 45 degree recline angle for preemies and newborns.

    Some infant seats come provided with inserts designed for preemies. These are typically designed not to affect the fit of the harness or put more than a thin layer of material behind baby's head. Other infant seats have no inserts at all. For those, we usually recommend that a parent can place a rolled receiving blanket to each side of the child's head and torso to fill up any extra space and keep the head from falling uncomfortably to the side. This does not affect the harness system and does not put anything behind baby's head, so it is not a hazard like some of the aftermarket accessories are.

    As for convertibles, there are lots of very good options that range from basic models with no frills to expensive models that make installations and adjustments very easy. All should be quite safe when installed and used correctly, though. We have a recommended seat list at carseatblog that is a good place to start. Obviously, some of our preferences may not apply to your situation and there are a lot of great products we haven't reviewed or didn't quite make the cut for our list.
     
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    Here is my Chicco SnugFit 30 in my v. It leaves adequate room in the front seat for my leggy 5'8" wife.

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    I just want 3 booster seats in the back row. Considering buying three nania highrides so I can carpool. This is a common issue, and if Toyota is after the SUV family "soccer mom" with the V then it would be great if they could figure this out. I w0uld hate to have to buy them just to return them if they do not fit. If prius came up with their own backless booster with a latch system I would be in heaven.
     
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    Update- I purchased 2 clik ollis.... that have the latch system for backless booster seats. The older version is currently selling at target and amazon for much less. Great for age 4 plus. It does NOT look like you can do three across and use the latch on the two outside seats... I think you would have to move over and use seatbelt system if you wanted to squeeze 3 across. That said, the 2 licorice booster seats look great in my new Prius V.
     
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    The Olli is not one of the narrowest boosters. Also, rigid LATCH is great, but doesn't allow you the flexibility of moving the booster over slightly to accomodate an adjacent seat, like you can a little with the Parkway SGL I mentioned. My Clek Oobr is one of my favorite carseats, but it's not among the better 3-across booster models. In many cases, with three-across, seatbelt installations sometimes give you a little more room to fit all three seats. Harmony makes a nice, inexpensive narrow backless booster as well. It's under $15 and easy to return at Walmart if it doesn't work.

    I don't have the Prius V any longer, but I did try an arrangement like the one I mentioned in response to your previous post. They will certainly fit, but you will probably have to help younger kids buckle, especially on the passenger side. Younger kids will have a tough time buckling themselves with the limited space between the boosters combined with the short buckle stalks. With any carseat, you should always get a good return policy because there can be an incompatibility issue in any vehicle, especially with 3-across setups.