Disappointed in PiP electronics

Moving the timer function into the display/head unit would prevent anyone from replacing the head unit if they wanted something better. You could of course still replace it, but the timer is an important feature I wouldnt want to go without.

 

"2. Entune doesn't work with the iPhone without tethering; this is supposed be on Toyota's fix list; I hope it arrives soon."

Personally, I don't think it works with iPhone at all. It might be my problem but I cannot get gps navigation to read address from my iphone "phonebook".

I called the AskToyota team and they told me it cannot read address from your "phonebook". Then why would "phonebook" be an option from "destination" menu????

Sorry...a bit off topic?

 

By tethering, you're referring to using a USB to dock connector cable right? I take it you want to do data over wi-fi or Bluetooth. If so, do you have Personal Hotspot/tethering enabled via your carrier? (iOS: Understanding Personal Hotspot and AT&T Wireless- Turn On Personal Hotspot with iPhone 4 using iOS 4.3). It costs extra.

 

Hey epoints, we solved the iPhone address sync with navi problem yesterday.. Read the following thread:
http://priuschat.com/forums/prius-c-main-forum/106290-entune-horrible.html

 

"Second, why would I *ever* want to use the TIMER END option?"
Toyota says that ideally, you should charge the battery shortly before you drive. I use the end time function every night so that the charge is finished by 6:00 am when I leave. I do this normally seven days a week, but if I'm not heading out in the morning, I just don't push the button and don't plug in the charger.
So, what may not make sense to you might work for others. As the old saying goes,
"Different strokes for different folks."

 

The voice command "show map" solves that problem. Yeah, a button would be nice, but the command works well once you try it a couple times.

Your iPhone needs charging anyway

Are you in EV mode? EV mode gives plenty of acceleration rate without the ICE. If you are trying to HV Stealth to speed, well sure that is slow. Carefull what you wish for, greater EV acceleration means reduced EV range

Yeah me too

The timer is available for use when the car is off. If the display was used you'd need a key and to power up the car. The little buttons are the same ones used to set the clock, so it makes sense.
The "end" option keeps you from having to calculate a begin time, which would differ each time depending on battery charge level. So they made it easy and gave you an end option that lets the car calculate when it needs to start. Most people that want to delay a charge know when they want the car ready to go, so all they have to do it set that time. It makes perfect sense.. Otherwise, People charge at all different times and routines, no way would I want a default delay.

Camback design and aerodynamic efficiency demand it. It's the top MPG car for a reason

Toyota CYA, with all the idiots in the world that backup when they really want to go forward, vice-versa, and the unique shifter design, they are doing their best to engineer out stupidity. At least they gave us the option to switch it to a single beep. Geez, people are stacking floormats and wondering why their gas pedal is getting stuck......then whine....it's not my fault.

Just wait until winter, when those heated seats are gonna get you better gas mileage.

The PiP is a 1000 times better Prius than the Gen II. Its just a little different and will take some mild adjustments and time to get used to . The 950 miles I'm about to have driven on a single 10 gallon tank of gas makes it perfect to me.

 

nice!

 

That is how I expected the charge timer end option to work. However, I found when I tried it that it does *NOT* take the battery charge level into account. If I choose 7am end time, the car started charging about 4am even if I have a mostly full battery.

 

I think the consensus around here is that the "end" timer just blindly starts the charging at (set time - about 3 hours), with no other factors figured in.

 

Just a quick correction. On the prototype, the charge port door was just above and behind the front left wheel well not below it. I had one for 6 weeks.

But I agree - the prototype location was better than the final location. I find myself backing into parking spaces all the time now just out of habit because that's what I need to do to easily use pedestal type EVSEs.

 

I use the Timer End function every day. When I pull in my driveway at night, I tap the button twice, and then plug in. Next morning, the car is freshly charged.

True, the timer's not good if you change its setting frequently. But if you use the same time regularly, it's easy to turn on when you need it. It automatically turns off after one use.

 

Must be very hilly there. In my usual 2 miles trip, there is a pretty big hill before the red light. I can keep up with traffic with 2/3 the battery power. I was worry that ICE may kick in on that hill but I was pleasantly surprised (and happy) with the EV power.

EV power threshold is about 55hp. If you were to accelerate with ICE instead, it would have to rev about 3,000 rpm (without battery assist) to produce the same power. It redlines at 5,200 rpm.

To extend the battery life. The longer the battery pack sits with a full charge, the faster it'll "degrade", especially sitting under the sun. It is better to charge it to full, right before you use it.

Note that a "full" charge is actually 85% full.

 

I agree that the UI on the timer is terrible. I know how it works and can set it. But try explaining it to someone who never used it and trusting them to go set it because you forgot. A mode or time that is flashing to set or confirm is not good enough. A plain English prompt and OK to confirm is much better.

Probably every other EV and PHEV is better. Same for the charging port location. It needs to be closer to the front so you don't have to back in to public spaces. Luckily, most cables just fit when driving in forward. But in a work-provided charger on a pole, the way the Leaf is designed, one charging cable can reach 6 parking spaces. This is important because it means someone can unplug and just move the cable to another vehicle without having to coordinate two people moving their cars.

Mike

 

I have no problem with the plug location and backing into the parking pace. I actually prefer it because of the backup camera. If I pull head in, I never know when the front lip is going to scratch (the curb or the stop).

I appreciate the weight saving (minimum cable length) by keeping the plug closest to the PHV pack in the back.

 

Maybe there will be an "Apple" edition of the PiP with a modern UI, the iPiP. How much extra should it cost? $20/month.