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Discussion in 'Chevrolet Volt' started by bajapat, Mar 6, 2012.

  1. daniel

    daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb

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    My point was that "respectable" acceleration is a subjective term. Coming from a Civic, the Prius has great acceleration. Coming from a Mustang, it has poor acceleration.

    As for your "well below average" statement, I've never seen a figure for the U.S. fleet average acceleration. Can you provide a figure, with documentation?

    My Zap Xebra did zero to 35 in roughly half a minute. My Tesla is supposed to do zero to 60 in 3.9 seconds in Performance Mode (or 4.1 seconds in Standard Mode). My Prius is faster than the average of those two. The Prius is no muscle car, but I certainly do not think it is "well below average."
     
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    Perceptions, aka butt dynometers, aren't very accurate.

    0-60mph times from 0-60 Times | 0 to 60 MPH and Quarter Mile Times for Fast Sports Cars, Muscle Car and 2011, 2012 Luxury Car performance stats!

    96 Civic HX (same gen/engine as the 99) 9.3 sec
    04 Prius 10.1 sec

    Some more hybrid/electric times:

    2007 Toyota Prius Touring Edition Hybrid 0-60 mph 9.9
    2010 Toyota Prius Hybrid 0-60 mph 9.7
    2012 Toyota Prius Plug-In Hybrid 0-60 mph 10.9
    2012 Toyota Prius V 0-60 mph 10.2

    2012 Toyota Camry Hybrid 0-60 mph 7.2
    2009 Toyota Camry Hybrid 0-60 mph 7.9

    2010 Honda Insight EX Navi (Hybrid) 0-60 mph 11.9
    2011 Honda CR-Z 0-60 mph 8.2
    2008 Honda FCX Clarity 0-60 mph 9.2
    1998 Honda EV Plus (Electric car) 0-60 mph 16.5

    2011 Chevrolet Volt 0-60 mph 8.9

    2011 Nissan Leaf 0-60 mph 7.9
    2012 Nissan Leaf EV NISMO Race Car 0-60 mph 6.9

    2009 Mini Cooper E (Electric Car) 0-60 mph 8.2

    2005 Ford Escape Hybrid 0-60 mph 9.4
    2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid 0-60 mph 7.8


    They've come along way since the early days!
    1973 Toyota Corolla 1200 0-60 mph 18.3
    1973 Honda Civic 0-60 mph 19.1
     
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  3. Jeff N

    Jeff N The answer is 0042

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    Unfortunately, that site isn't always accurate either. The LEAF 0-60 time of 7.9 seconds is seriously wrong. Every result I've seen pegs it to be essentially the same as the roughly 10 seconds for the 3rd gen Prius.
     
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    Average is 9.Xs.

    It is below average. Whether it is "well" below or whatever you can argue. There was a nice graph I found once listing fleet 0-60 times, efficiency, and weight put out by NHTSA I think. If I run across it I will post it. It was interesting to see vehicles getting faster, fatter, and the efficiency tracking CAFE standards.
     
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    Just letting every one know what I decided on



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    drinnovation EREV for EVER!

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    Congrats.. thanks for letting us know how he confusion was resolved. What were you deciding factors?
     
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    Enjoy your new car!
     
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    Congratulations on your purchase..
    isn't it wonderful when you get to make a decision after getting all the facts?
    So there won't be any buyer's remorse in the future.
    Enjoy your ride.
     
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    Wife was a die hard chevy fan.. and she think's it's bigger then the Prius (i know it's not)


    I got smart and changed the light bulbs in the house to CFL and LED to show there will not be a rise in electrical cost..

    I got a really good deal on it and it's what i really wanted..


    Well I really wanted a truck but it didn't fit in to the plan...
     
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    You can't force a fan to believe otherwise. So no big worries. Also make sure that they give you the more up to date charger cord so you don't have to worry about it being replaced.
     
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    I think I do it's got the black plug


    iPhone ?
     
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    Congrats. I haven't been following your posts but when I saw CT, I thought... wow, you guys have pricey electricity (have looked into this before). See EIA - Electricity Data.

    If you haven't seen the rates for Douglas County, WA yet, you'd fall over when you see them: 2011 Rates.
     
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    Ya it is bad.. and i asked about the timed meter and it seemed to get worse...

    .7 off and 10 on peak

    I can go to a different electrical generator service and get high 6 all the time
     
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    I have never drive Chevrolet car .. so no experience that which model is more suitable ..!!
     
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    Thanks I can sleep better tonight knowing this. ;)


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    Think if money combined with lack of convenient recharging options hadn't been such a factor, I'd have gotten a Volt. Volt would work well with my commute cycle and not burn too much gas. However, my car is usually outside at home and running a line under the garage door is awkward. Also, it was more money even with the tax credit which is why I ended up with a Prius. But I believe in the Volt's engineering prowess, even if its' sales started off slowly.
     
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    I just sold my 2011 prius and we bought a chevy volt, the first day with the car we were able to get over 42 miles on the charge and still had 14 miles left, we did like the prius ,its hard to say bad things about it,but to us theres no comparision between the 2 cars
    At least one thing i dont have to deal with these flaming idiots on the road that seem to target priuses with there road rage, one day im not going to be able to control my emotions and i will get in big trouble, thats over with,good luck what ever choice you make ,there both excellent cars,but for us its the volt
     
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    Congratulations on getting a Volt. I drove one for about a week and enjoyed the experience.

    It is great that we drivers have a choice between two very different, high quality vehicles. I think it all comes down to what kind of driving a person does. If one does mostly short drives (say, under 50 miles or so, round trip), then the Volt seems to make more sense. However, I drive from San Diego to Anaheim a lot, with occasional drives to Los Angeles and Las Vegas. In long distance driving, the excellent hybrid-mode fuel economy of the Prius Plug-in (50MPG on regular versus about 35MPG on premium for the Volt) makes the Prius Plug-in a better choice for me. I like not having to weigh making those drives against spending significantly more money for gas.

    Nevertheless, I do wish the Prius offered more all-electric range without having to give up interior room. I suspect that will happen in the not-too-distant future, as battery technology, and thus capacity, improves. I remember how pleased I was with 42 - 45 MPG in my 2005 hybrid Prius. Now that kind of fuel economy is achieved by some non-hybrids.

    The trick with the Prius Plug-in seems to be to switch to the EV (all-electric) mode for low speed (urban) driving and switch to the hybrid + ECO mode for freeway/highway driving. By doing that I sometimes have some charge left by the time I finish my day's driving. It's an amusing game to play, switching back and forth to stretch the charge. With a full charge in my Prius Plug-in (that is admittedly only good for about 11 - 15 miles of all-electric driving), for my local driving (which is usually a combination of urban and freeway driving) I get around 60 - 65 MPG, and sometimes a lot more, for really short trips to the grocery store.

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    The holy grail of electric cars: A battery that's light, compact, and cheap. The battery pack in my car takes up roughly half the volume and 1/3 the weight of the entire car. And apparently an out-of-warranty battery replacement (the pack itself plus labor and presumably some profit for the company) costs about 1/3 the price of the car.

    An EV maker has to balance price, range, and interior space. Toyota could give the PiP 200 miles of range, but there wouldn't be much space left, and the price would be double what it is.
     
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    It sure wasn't a financial decision since your Prius was about a year old. Volt is a great choice if the interior colume downsizing works for you.

    If you drive your Volt to get 56 miles on a single charge, I am sure you will meet those same "flaming idiots". I don't think it is the car.