Well just got back from my trip today. We decided to rent the car out for the day and we drove down to Palm Springs to spend the weekend with my uncle. When I pulled into the driveway after driving the Prius from San Fran to Palm Springs the MPG calculator was exactly at 57.0 mpgs. I was thoroughly impressed with the way the car handled and performed. During the trip we made some 40-60 mile trips I was getting 62 mpgs at the end of them. All in all it was a joy to drive. Now the complaints and issues I had. 1. The seat. My fears were correct and the seat was EXTREMELY uncomfortable. So what we did was pack a blanket or two with us and we used them to "pad" the seat. Obviously I don't want to drive around with a blanket on my seat all the time sooo I need another solution. I went to wal-mart and got some 12 dollar seat cushion but the back part of it did not go up far enough to make a significant difference. However, the lower portion and butt portion worked great. Why would they make such a great car and cheap out on the seats? So while we were in Pal m Springs we checked out the Toyota dealer there and sat and drove in a leather equipped Prius and it felt about 50-60% better. I don't really need the lumbar support more the cushion support for my upper back and body. So I am hoping one of you guys might have a solution for this dilemma.. maybe a custom seat cushion? I think that would be cheaper than shelling out 3k for leather seats. 2. The arm rests. The issue for me was again lack of padding. The plastic arm rest was stiff and not comfortable at all for placing my elbows on while driving the car. After a while, my elbows hurt from being placed on the hard piece of plastic for a few hours. The temporary solution was to use my sweater and place it over the center console armrest. Once that was done, it was perfect and the console did not hurt anymore. Again hoping one of you guys might have a solution for this one... Any custom fit cushion pads I place on both the door and center console arm rests? 3. The steering wheel This was more of an annoyance than a neccessity.. but combined with the uncomfortable seat and arm rests this did get annoying quickly. The basic problem is that the telescopic adjustment on the steering wheel is... well non existent. I am sorry but being able to move the steering wheel 4 cms closer to you does not count as a telescopic feature, they REALLY need to re-design this.. PRONTO. For example, in pretty much every car I have driven besides Toyota's... the steering wheel can be pulled towards you by a lot! I love this because being a taller person I don't have to REACH so far to grab the steeling wheel and I can comfortably place my arms on the armrests and enjoy a lazy drive. What gives on this one? Does Toyota only make cars for small people who like stiff seats and no cushions? --------------------------- So those are my gripes with the Prius. Everything else was truly spectacular. The performance, sound system, view, 4 modes, hybrid system, large amount of space, reliability, the way it sounded... just everything. I also got to drive it in all sorts of conditions ranging from city driving, highway driving, up and down VERY steep grades and mountains, light rain and heavy rain, slow and fast acceleration. Bottom line it was the ultimate test drive and it was worth paying the money to to be able to do these things with the car. So I ask you Prius Chat.... Any suggestions for my problems because I really want to get the 2012 in a month but I know these issues with a pain... literally. Thanks again. Added some pics....Ill add the rest tomorrow. http://flic.kr/p/be9b9c
FWIW, regarding telescoping steering wheel, we never even had that on the 2nd gens. It was a new feature to Gen 3.
I drove to the East coast this summer, 1800mi round trip and was surprised how comfortable the entire ride was. I'm assuming you had a package Two or Three. Since the Four comes with adjustable lumbar I had no problems. My reach is long and my arms are bony and found the whole arm rest, steering wheel configuration not bothersome at all. :noidea: Sorry you had such an unpleasant experience. I bet the mileage was exciting though!
You could buy a 2 or 3 and have the seats covered in leather with gel padding (about $1500) and somewhere on this site people are selling pads for the armrests and center console. That being said, you should look for a car that is more comfortable for you, if you want good mileage, a Camry or Fusion hybrid might be the ticket.
1) Katzkin leather for 1k installed 2) No idea 3) JDM steering wheel conversion: http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-iii...064-jdm-prius-steering-wheel.html#post1329665 Good luck!
That's not going to help with the OP's issues. Changing out the steering wheel isn't going to magically give it a telescoping feature.
Oops, for some reason i thought he didn't like how the steering wheel felt. I must have read a different post on a different forum and mixed up the two.
It's smart to rent a car before you buy, to many things you can't discover in a test drive. The three things you mentioned are fairly common complaints. Having a car that's uncomfortable doesn't work for me no matter how well I like the rest of it. Why not give up a few MPG and check out the 2012 Camry Hybrid? I haven't driven one yet but I understand the Ford Fusion Hybrid is pretty good also. Good luck.
Let's face it, the ergonomics in the Prius is not perfect, but many cars fail on this. I just live with it and make minor mods. A pillow for my right elbow and a raised shelf for my left elbow.
Agreed. It seems to me the OP should consider other cars, rather than "settle" for a car he's not happy with, and perhaps have nagging regrets down the road.
Agreed. Even cycledrum, who is extremely critical about seating, says you'd need to step up to something like a BMW 5-series for better seating.
Individual preferences vary. Likely this is not the car for you. I traded our BMW in for the Prius. Both my wife and I find the Prius very comfortable. The only thing we have missed is the heated seats.
You probably know that 2012 Four and Five will get, for the first time in Prius! ... power adjustable driver's seat. That should eliminate many complaints as you can adjust it in ways you cannot with a mechanical seat. 'Course, the basic Four will show about $29k on the sticker. Lot of off the shelf seat cushions which would amount to trial and error. I've seen a company that makes nice looking padded door armrests. Prius has 1.5" of steering wheel telescope range which I've measured in several Toyotas and Hondas. But I have found in Corolla and Camry, the wheel can pull correspondingly closer than in the Prius. Accords and Civics adjust up pretty well too. VW Jetta had extended scope of something over 2". Our dear little Prius could still use some ironing out. In perspective, the Camrys, Accord, and all are in their 8th generation where this Prius is still in its 3rd, so, 'dialing it in' takes a long time. Keep in mind they placed it to also push closer to the dash. I guess a number of shorter drivers maybe in Japan needed the wheel farther away from them. With my ghetto measurement, we seemed to only pick up about 1/2" closer wheel pulled to us over the non-scope 2nd gen. That's not much. I'd like another inch, but it works well enough. I drive with slim soled shoes, something like 'driver's shoes' if there is such a thing
Agreed with others - if you can't get happy with a simple bottom or lumbar cushion, likely best to walk away. If you got fabric and planned to switch to leather to experiment, there's no guarantees that will make you happy either. Seats mods are no fun. Better to get a car you are comfortable in. But, do try the 2012 Four with power seat in a couple weeks, or Prius v, Camry hybrid, Fusion hybrid. ------------------------------------------ We've heard it before, but car seating is so personal. One person's lounge-chair-in-car is another person's chair of thorns. My 8.5 rating for 3rd gen driver's seating was little generous. I give it 8.0 to leave more room for those BMWs which are 9.5+ I haven't been on a 200 mile trip yet, so perhaps I should shut it.
Thanks for the feedback I guess some of you mis-interrupted my "rant" about the comfort of the Prius as to me not wanting one. I do in fact LOVE driving the car and just about everything in and outside of the car. The only 3 things I did not like were what I mentioned above and I am just looking for a solution to try and fix those.... Rather than dump a bunch of money into a model IV or a camry/fusion hybrid. Which frankly I do not want or need.
I have a 2005 and a 2010. I am never really comfortable in the 2005 seats, but I am comfortable in my 2010 Prius 4 leather seats. I drove NY to Florida and back and was never uncomfortable. I'm glad to hear that future Priuses will have power seats - in my opinion almost a necessity in a modern car.
We have a 4 and went on a 2500 mile round trip. The leather seats are comfortable and varying the seat position and lumbar support allows me to experience slightly different positions. I do agree that the telescoping could be greater....with the seat slid all the way back and reclined a bit...it feels a bit out of reach. (I'm 6'2"). My 4 Runner had the leather/power seat package...maybe more seat padding, but I felt better in the Prius after long distances.
1) You can purchase seat cushions from places and be able to return them if not happy. Perhaps purchase 2 or 3. 2) Sounds like you may need to rent the car again, not for one long trip, but for a few days or so in your area. Spend $100 or so renting for multiple days. Believe me, that $120 will be MUCH cheaper to find out your truth now, than to buy a car you are not happy with in 3 months* 2a) A half hour test drive will never match severals days of renting. 3) Careful with the shoes you wear to drive. I suggest skip the shoes with bulky soles (i.e. running shoes). Skechers still makes some athletic looking shoes with slim soles which I find comfortable while driving. Don't let shoes make your driving less comfortable. 4) If the steering wheel feels a tad too far away, scoot up a notch. Sounds obvious, but it works. I grab it on the lower rungs for most driving. 5) If you don't like it, let it go. There are other good cars to buy and new ones coming all the time, like Prius c.
This is the first time I've ever heard the 5-series referred to as the 500 series. People always say 1-series, 3-series, 5-series, etc.