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Household Energy Audit - 2011

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by wjtracy, Jan 12, 2012.

  1. wjtracy

    wjtracy Senior Member

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    At the risk of looking like an excessive energy user, I wanted to take a look at our household energy use in 2011:

    Northeast Region/suburb house
    Prius 18,616 mi @ 408 gals @ $1458 total
    Minivan 6293 mi @ 390 gals @ $1344
    Elec 11,400 kwh @ $1323
    Gas(Heat) 627 Therm @ $800
    Total Energy Cost $4925

    A little shocking that the minivan which we use sparingly still uses just as much gaso as the Prius. Not quite as bad as it looks since maybe half the minivan miles are hauling more people/stuff. And just imagine where'd we be if we still had 2 minivans.

    Elec seems like a real bargain - I am thinking we paid ~$2000/yr for elec 35 years ago in our first apartment. Nat gas looks expensive here at $1.25 per therm - highway robbery?

    >>Was going to calc CO2 yields for carbon footprint, but found I was in disagreement with the EPA Power Profiler website which shows a relatively low CO2 yield for 11400 kwh @ 50/50 coal/nuke mix. Need to understand that better.

    How are we doing?
    I know we have some big PV/conservers out there.
     
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    How many people does this cover? If it is three or more, it's not bad.
     
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    ...its 2 empty nesters. Not yet fully retired so work impacts car use.

    >>Are you able to match the elec in FL?

    Thanks for chiming in.
     
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    heat looks really low, you must be freezing!:eek:
     
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    Looks higher than my total house energy use, all electric (ductless heat pump added three years ago), two people of empty nest age.

    Puget Sound Region/suburb house
    Prius 12,406 miles, 228 gallons, $811.
    Two other cars, 12,046 miles, ~420 gallons, ~$1490 (not actually totaled yet)
    Elec 8,112 kwh , ~$609 (estimated from latest tiered rates)
    About 1 cubic foot of wood, no gas or oil,
    Total Energy Cost ~$2910
     
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    gas for heat and hot water...not cold we go for 70F except for try to turn down when away. All of our northeast houses (NJ then VA) were banned from nat gas hook-ups when built in the late 70's due to shortages of nat gas supply, and later converted to gas. Are you using oil heat in Bean Town?
     
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    Fuzzy - That is very good elec conservation by you. Yes elec heat pump is probably very successful in WA. Heat pumps were popular in Northeast in the 1970's but we got into high cost eiectricity (probably due to lots of nukes being constructed) and heat pumps fell out of favor due to high elec cost + more extreme winter/summer temp swings. Also nat gas which was in short supply in the 1970's in NE, made a come-back in the 1980's 1990's. In NJ we used oil hot water + heat due to the above supply/cost constraints.
     
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    Sorry, I was still updating after you responded.

    This air source heat pump is much more efficient than was possible in the 70's, and is approaching the efficiency of ground sources units of not very long ago. Five years back when we used only resistance heat, and before I sealed some air leaks and upgraded the hot water appliances, this house averaged 10,600 kwh/year, and exceeded your house during three winters of the 1990s.

    My next goal is to push annual energy below 7500 kwh, aiming towards 7000. The new frig (already six months old) and patio door will help, and I'm considering a heat pump water heater. The federal incentive expired, but the local incentive is continuing. Plumbing reroute is the main obstacle, and I'll be looking for updated performance data from the utility. One available model performs no better than straight electric in the climate.
     
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    ...good work! Think my old fridges (2) are probably part of the problem. Looking to replace. Last month (still can't believe it) got a $700 high efficiency washer for $150 after Cash for 4 Appliance Clunker rebate + Home Depot black friday sale. Don't know if I can replicate that for a new frig.
     
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    In nj? How big is house (sq footage)? How many occupant ?
     
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    Good score on that washer. Can you triple-dip by getting something like a Washwise Rebate from your local utility? Fridge rebates might also be available, though likely smaller.

    I put in a high efficiency washer and modern dishwasher just over five years ago. Along better air leak sealing of many plumbing and ceiling electrical penetrations, removal of south facing window screens in winter to improve solar heat gain, and probably a few more things, average annual consumption dropped to 9300. Modern low flow toilets also slashed water consumption and flushed much better than the old water hogs.

    The spouse was skeptical about my desire for a new better / quieter / more efficient dishwasher. That resistance vanished the moment we pulled out the old one and discovered it was already a goner, the leakage just hadn't yet gone far enough to be discovered.

    A better fridge was also desired, but we couldn't find anything that filled our 'want' list. But when the old one died over the summer, that list was quickly trimmed to fit available models. The Kill-A-Watt meter shows a 400 kwh/yr savings, though a portion of that is offset by increased heating need.

    I had originally hoped for more savings from the heat pump, but also realized that some of it would evaporate as the thermostat was pushed up to accommodate aging metabolisms. We ended with a simultaneous ~1000khw/yr savings and warmer house.
     
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    Jadi, I am in Northern Virginia now but was 25-yrs in South Jersey.
    We have 2 in the house, average suburb house 2 story w/ basement. Compared to Jersey I think we have cheaper elec here.

    >>Heard on radio today, average household spent $2800 on gasoline.
    They must have stole my numbers.
     
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    I know what you mean about metabolism. Got a Kill-o-Watt for Xmas, so I should check the fridges, but they are hard to get at the plug. I see my washer on your list as Tier-1. We had similar program to Washwise rebate, except I got $350 rebate (check in the mail so I believe it when I see it).
     
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    ....looks like I am close to national average for gaso ($2800/yr) as well as nat gas ($671/yr). Now I just need elec use national average.
     
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    I'm in south jersey too. Nat gas is $1.25 per therm + $9.22 monthly customer charge. I used 790 therm last year + cc = $1100. My teenage daughter like to take loooong shower and my 16 yr old 80% efficiency furnace is the culprit. Due for a 95% eff furnace replacement soon. Or maybe hybrid system.

    As for gasoline, 20K miles total (both cars, Mercedes V8 & Camry 4) avg @ 22.5 mpg= 888gal @$3.50 =$3100. Should be less this year. MB got totaled, replace with a Prius.

    I have solar panel, 1300 kwh surplus electricity last year. I will replace my gas range to electric in the near future when my 7 yr old hot-tub is done.

    Total energy cost last year $4200ish
    Should be less this year with Prius and even less in coming years with upgrade and changes to my house.
     
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    Good work on solar panel. In South Jersey we had installed 95% efficient gas heat to replace orig oil heater. At first we did not have nat gas in the development, then they finally laid the gas line in the neighborhood we made the upgrade to the efficient model. We have the 95% gas heater in VA too.
     
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    For my House in Maine (7500 HDD),
    Heating: 2 cords of wood, $60
    Hot water et al: 256 Gallons of propane, $923
    Electric: 1186 kWh, $309
    Prius: still working out numbers, ~$1200
    Total: $2492
     
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    Brilliant numbers Corwyn. What energy source do you cook with ?
     
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    COuple of points,, first,, good on everyone for doing what they can! Next, solar hot water comes way cheaper wi th higher efficiency than PV, and ought to be considered before PV for best ener efficiency

    I would also argue ( strongly) against converting any gas burning appliance to resistance electric, EVEN if you have excess PV. Depending on yOur net metering structure you might be on the hook for excess production, but from a green house gas production equation, selling your excess PV (or even giving it away!) so that it can be used to reduce the effect of conventional (coal fired?) electric generation. Resistance electric is singularly the least efficient heat source. It takes ~10 BTUs of generation to deliver a single BTU at the heater.

    Icarus


    PS. In our 6 month off grid house, we use ~.8kwh of PV supplied electic pe day. We also use about 10 gallons of propane per month, and 2 cords of wood. This is in far northern Ontario Canada

    The rest of the year, we use ~10 kwh/ day, 1.5 cords of wood depending on where we are when. We also drive the Prius ~7000 miles per year, and a Subaru ~5-6000, we probably use ~250 gallons of propane for point source heat, demand hot water, suplimented by solar. Our biggest use is the shop and the hot tub,, a small 2 person model' that probably uses ~2 kwh/day. (in the off grid house we have a wood fired tub!)

    Icarus
     
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    there's pleny of gas here, but not in my town. 2500 foot 60 year old cape, updated insulation, two empty nesters, keep heat at 64 day and 52 night. 800 gallons of heating oil last year, about 3 grand.:(
     
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