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240v Home Charger

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by C56spd, Nov 20, 2011.

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  2. Yes, I will buy the $999 Toyota endorsed install

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  3. Yes, but I will have my own system installed

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  1. C56spd

    C56spd New Member

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    For those of you who have a PIP on order and now waiting for 3-4 months, I was curious how many of you will shift attention now to installing a 240v home charger before your car arrives.

    If so, how many of you will be seeking something other than the $999 Toyota endorsed installation pkg. Any ideas, projects, pictures?

    Thanks,

    C56spd
     
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    The question I am wondering is how much is it worth to reduce the charging time from 3 hours to 1.5? Assuming most people are charging over night, it would make no difference. Maybe if your lifestyle is going in and out all day it could be worthwhile.

    Is there some technical reason 240v is better? Does it have any impact on the battery itself?
     
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    Because of the short charging time on the PIP it doesn't seem necessary to go to the trouble of a 240v charger at home. For a Nissan Leaf or Volt where the charge times are significantly longer then that's a better consideration. I'm wondering if there will be aftermarket battery extenstion packs fir the PIP. I could see doubling the range on the PIP and then the charge time would be again a consideration. The only other reason I can see to add a dedicated 240v charger is when you get a separate meter from your electric company. In this way you pay a baseline price for your electricity and not add it on to your household electricity price. But here the installation costs can make it a detractor if your usage isn't going to be that heavy.
     
  4. JimboPalmer

    JimboPalmer Tsar of all the Rushers

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    Given that I have eight 220v outlets in my garage (Two are 3 phase!) it is ironic I will not be getting a BEV or PHEV.
     
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    Yes, that is a topic that interests me. I see myself coming home from work, fully depleting the battery's charge, yet wanting to go out on an evening errand with the car. The difference between a 3-hour charge and a 1.5-hour charge could be critical for allowing me to enjoy a gas-free trip in the evening after work.

    I'm already spending a lot of money just to get the standard trim so I'd like to find a cheaper way (than $999) to quickly charge the car. Oh, the excitement of projects to take advantage of new technology!
     
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    Hell I have a 220 outlet in my office! Getting a 220 socket installed on your house or garage is really no big deal. The trick will be finding an Electrician , for those of you who cannot do the install yourself, who won't screw you into the ground by overcharging you , no pun intended, to install it.
     
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    Can I use the Nissan Leaf 240V charger for PIP?
     
  8. NYPrius1

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    That's a Good Question. Will these plugs work on al EV's and how about the Charging Stations.?

    I hope there will be one standard for all EV's
     
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    3 hours seems short but having had the demo 2010 for a week there were many times I was like "what the hell, this is taking too long" because I was ready to head out and do something else.

    It'll still be $700 but since the government will cover 30%, I'll be installing one. Best is my dad is splitting it with me since he lives next door, and he is getting a Plug-in as well, we can both use it.
     
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    I wouldn't hold my breath on this one..... :eek:
     
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    So I guess the answer is "NO"? I hope there will be a converter in the mkt soon.
     
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    Yes, the charger plug is an international standard. Same plug for Plug-In Prius, Volt, Leaf, RavEV, Scion IQ, PiPrius, Focus Electric, Etc.

    The home chargers will differ in max load output.. That's why the PiPrius charger is cheaper because they sized it's output for the car.
     
  13. efusco

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    Don't have, and don't plan on buying the current PIP. That said, I think that before I shelled out $1000 for the home charger I'd wait to see if EVSE will offer an upgrade to 240V for the basic Toyota 120V charger. Would be a lot more versatile and less expensive.
    EVSE Upgrade - Products
     
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    Get your EVSE installed and "operational" this year to get the 30% tax credit!
     
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    The way I read it, this will only work if you are not in AMT land.
     
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    Think she's gonna have trouble getting it plugged in there?!

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  17. efusco

    efusco Moderator Emeritus
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    LOL! Where'd you find that pic?
     
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    Premanitions. It's my wife :) no really.


    Amazon

    http://www.amazon.com/Leviton-EVB22-3PM-Evr-Green-Charging-Station/dp/B004G6ZSZG
     
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    Can the PIP just plug into a 120 vac or 220 vac outlet or does it require a Charger?
     
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    efusco Moderator Emeritus
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    You must have a charger.