Tesla Model S, 0-60 <4.5 sec, 320 miles range

Telsa Model S Beta makes first public appearance

 

Now, this is a full electric car that is truly electric.

 

It is amazing that Tesla is able to make a car so much better then everyone elses electric cars. They have two to three times the range of competitors and a price that while high, is not out of range for what they are providing. Toyota has picked a good partner.

 

We won't know what the price is until it hits the market.

 

Well, the 300+ mi range car also costs 3x more. The 120 mi range car is $57k - quite a bit more than the LEAF, though it will be a lot nicer inside and bigger. Still costs 2x more than the LEAF after rebates for 20% more range.

Not hatin' on the Tesla - I would love to own one!

 

My guess for the high performance package with 320 miles range would be in th e$110K range.

 

The $57,000 k Model S is a 160-mile range with a top speed of 120mph!

 

In the first video, that guy popping out from the hood is classic. Model S can hold total of 8 people (5 adults, 1 clown and 2 kids).

 

Sorry - going off the data posted by the greencarreports.com article.

Not sure if that's a type-o or if they've adjusted the base model's range downwards.

BTW Tesla says top speed is 130 mph, not 120. Not sure where you got that info from.

 

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I didn't see that anywhere, and although it's possible I suppose? . . . . I'd wager that a 160 mile range is NOT 160 miles of range if you're maintaining a constant high speed - trust me. From EV experience since the 1990's, (like all manufacturers) that's talking 'mixed' driving ... all speeds, including 65mph. Now, if you're approaching 110-120mph? Your range is going to be maybe only 35-40% of that 160 mile range - on level ground. Otherwise it'd be a GREAT advertising point for Tesla ... that they'd NEVER just ignore ... "160 mile range, even at 120mph"
An EV can kiss off power in many unusual ways. I've dumped nearly half a charge, by going fast from nearly sea level to the 5,000 level. On the Tesla forum, folks post similar loss ... about 7 miles for every 1,000' of altitude. Sure, regen gives about 30% of that loss back .. but I'm just saying ... 160 miles ... with a big asterisk beside it. Otherwise, down the road folks will be screaming madly about false estimates.

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Model S | Tesla Motors states the maximum range is 300 miles with the largest battery. There are 3 sizes: 160 mile (standard), 230 mile (+ $10000) & 300 mile (+ another $10000).

Model S Facts | Tesla Motors states reasons why YMMV which are known to all hypermilers: climate, terrain, driving style, and accessory use. They didn't mention tire pressure & composition. I was told the Model S would be available with run flats (Maybe an option, maybe standard) but maybe LRR tires will also be available.

Nissan advertises 100 miles for their Leaf. Does anyone expect to get it all the time? AmpHours don't mean anything to most people so putting that in front of the market isn't going to get the manufacturer any sales. Range means something.

The Prius is rated at 50mpg. Do I expect to get 595 miles out of every tank? Of course not. If the EPA rates Tesla's small battery at 160 miles do I expect to get 160 out of it? Of course not.

The numbers are good for comparision and can be used as a basis for an intelligent decision based on the driver's needs & expectations. My commute is 35 miles each way without a charging opportunity so a 100 mile range Anything doesn't have enough margin for me but 160 does. NYC is 180 miles round trip & DC is 150 miles one way. Does 230 work for me? Is another 140 miles worth $20000? I haven't decided yet. My question to Roadster owners would be: How far do you push your 230 mile battery?

 

Shouldn't the title also include the price ?

 

I am interested in the 160-mile Model S and will also keep an old Prius for very long trips and incidentals(bad weather power outage). Also we don't know yet what the options are going to be and their costs.

 

Elon Musk: Tesla Model X to be unveiled before Jan. Detroit Auto Show debut | egmCarTech

 

The 160 / 230 / 300 mi ranges are all probably LA04 cycle numbers. You can 25% appx 25% to get more typical EPA range values: 120 / 172 / 225. These numbers are also probably obtained in "range mode" designed to maximize range at the expense of battery life. You can probably subtract another 20% for a standard charge which will bring typical range values further down to 96 / 138 / 180 mile range for typical use.

This is in line with that Tesla Roadster owners report - usually around 180-190 miles range in standard mode which is more like 150+ miles driven "normally".

 

(yawn)...wake me when it's affordable...I mean 'normally' affordable, not $50,000 "affordable". THIS ($$$) is where EVs need attention, NOT 0-60 times. Really? all that AND I can eat a Porcshe for lunch on the drag strip...not helping many people in my opinion. maybe the rich egos. it seems technology is great...if u can pay for it...which a good lot cannot. Sure I paid 24k for a Prius...but that next step to twice the $$$ for an EV...not gonna happen in bulk anytime soon. Let's hope gasoline lasts until then.

 

Well - for not much more you can get a LEAF. After rebates my LEAF cost me about the same as my Prius (out the door).

Be happy that there's a line of people eager to pay $$$ for a Tesla to help bring prices down for the rest of us. Without Tesla, I doubt Nissan, Ford and Mitsubishi would have $$ priced EVs out or out soon.

If current limitations of a $$ don't work - then there's the $$ priced Prius PHEV - if you can only afford $ - then Honda's got a couple <$20k hybrids for you and there's a lot of 25/40 mpg very nice compacts on the market now, too.