Thoughts on $32K base price?

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I think the Leaf is better if you are a multicar family, as a single person, I would still need to keep my Prius if I bought a Leaf, because of the range limits of a pure EV

As a 1 car owner, the PiP is correct for me, even though I would like to go %100 electric. My commute is 17 miles each way, and I can most likely plug in in the parking garage at work. The goal of nearly %100 EV on my commute will be very close, and I will use far less gasoline than I do now. For errands around town, the 15 mile range is just fine.

It does't have to be "all or nothing", and the PiP is a good start for most average people, to weaning them off gasoline.

 

There'll be some PHEV buyers that are buying a prius for the 1st time. So the $32k turns on what you're replacing. We went from a Ford Exploader to our Gen II Prius ... now well over 100k miles on it.

What do WE think of the $32K ?? It's $8K less than the Volt. Then, when you deduct fed money and (in some cases) state money, it's a great deal ... especially as gas continue to rise in supply and decrease in availability.

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it's $3,000 less than a Volt.

 

Ask me in 2-3 years.
There's not going to be very many "base" model PHV's on the road for a looooong time, just like it's hard right now to go out and buy a $24,000 "base" model G3. The first year's production will go for those who pre-order, as it should.

I'm glad that the PVH is getting closer to emerging from its elephantine gestation period, and it'll be good to hear some first hand reports from "for-real" drivers out there.

Like the Volt and the Leaf however, they're out of my economic depth band, so it's hard for me to get really exited about the PHVs.

 

I was under the impression the Prii family line-up would all be PHV compatable in a few years' time, no?

 

Yes, but it costs LESS. Then you get to throw Calif. money/incentives on it too. Volt doesn't qualify for state funds . . . . being a dirtier emission vehicle.

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I don't get why people post "this car wouldn't work for me, ergo x car is so much better and no one other than a fringe few should buy the plug-in."

You also ignore that the base plug-in prius is NOT equivalent to the Prius 2, the tax credits, and the fact that after calculating it out, it may actually come out ahead financially. And even if not, people may just want to buy it for the cool factor.

For me, I have a long commute, plus with me having a 3rd gen already, makes it not viable from a financial (depreciation, doh) persective, nor could I justify the gain in MPG with the plugin because of my 35-mile/one way commutte. That might change in the future, and one day I do hope to get a plug-in.

 

i doubt it, as it costs money.

 

1) You need to redo your math. Once the PHEV Prius & the Volt go about 70-ish miles down the road ... the PHEV Prius will be out-performing the Volt, both range and mileage wise. That's because the PHEV Prius's CS mileage is almost 40% greater than the Volt ... & that's discounting the Volt's dirtier emissions, premium gas, & only 4 seat capacity. Still, if those elements don't bug you - good luck!



2) CA money is NOT a tax credit ... it's rebate money ... independent of tax liability. See my recent post under "hybrid news".

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These *EVs are not responsible for my locality making electricity from coal, or my neighborhood association of maroon republicans getting in the way of PV -- so I'll just answer AS IF the EV miles were clean and petrol free:

The corded Prius' base package is nice, and I am ok with paying about $26k for it. Is the $3500 remainder (after tax credit) a good deal for society ? I estimate over the life of the car it will displace about 100k petrol miles, meaning it costs 3.5 cents to avoid a petrol mile.

Consumer reports estimates that total cost of ownership for a Prius is somewhere around 35 - 40 cents a mile IIRC, so the surcharge is about 10%. That is remarkably inexpensive for novel technology that does not have volume production or experience to draw down the price.

I call it a slam dunk if you can run the car off clean energy. Heck, just the price of oil sends about 4 cents a mile out of the country to OPEC*.

* numbers based on cordless Prius

 

thoughts on the 32000 base price is, not a chance i would spend 32000 for a car that claims to get 15 miles on ev, that price takes me out of buying the car, i have a 2011 prius runs just fine, i get mid 50s with the car,to sell this car and pay 9000 more is crazy, when people were talking about 29000 it made me think .toyota my opinion this will not be a good thing for you, oh well thats life

 

32K sure buys a lot of Gas.... without spending the extra $400+(per month) on the car note to boot....