Anticipated price for 2012 PHV prius?

Im extremely confident that the PHEV prius will be cheaper than the Leaf and the Volt. I'm guessing a $27-$28k MSRP before tax breaks for the car. Why? Both the Leaf and the Volt have larger (and thus more expensive) batteries, greatly driving up their costs. $32,000 for an electric car is still baffling since electric motors and components should be cheaper than gas engines and components.

But i think toyota made a relatively small battery capacity on purpose (13mi EV range), in order to reduce costs. Toyota generally doesn't include R&D costs into their cars, and tries to keep them low and affordable in order to saturate the market. I mean the Gen I prius was sold at a loss.

 

In stead of anticipating a release date for the PHEV price - I'D just be happy for a firm date on WHEN they'll release a date that they SAY what the release date is.



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Currently, batteries are still too expensive and full of deficiencies to even worry about "breaking even". But that's really not an issue for the people who will be getting these first gen vehicles! For most of us, the standard Prius (and equivalents) is and will be the best choice for a few more years. 5 years down the road maybe a kit will be available for under $2000 that can give the G3/4 a 40+ mile range!

Base model, $28,950! Just my guess!

 

I wait to test it impatiently and maybe pass from Prius III to PHV.

The relief where I live is not appropriate to the PIII. It cnsomme still too much in the small courses.

I will have expected better results.

 

from factory it only comes with solar roof


I think this is on time an aftermarket roof is a no no, since you cannot get a sunroof same as factory, I belive it would-ve effect -the resale factor

 

congrats!:cheer2: i think you made the right move. what have you been driving?

 

Cool! Just realize it takes a while to get used to the Prius and get the most out of it! Heck, I'm still trying new techniques to see what happens!

 

10% ethanol is pretty much the standard mix year round now, but it does impact mileage quite a bit... by almost 10%!

 

do not know, I live in upstate New York, except for one small brand company they all sell 10% ethanol!

 

I have tried non-ethanol gas and did not see a great increase in MPG.

 

Same here.
There are several stations locally that happily charge 10-15 cents more for the alky-free stuff.
I haven't seen a measureable difference in my fuel efficiency when I've tried it. I can maybe believe about 2-MPG in a lab...no more. There just isn't that much more of a difference in energy density between the blends....and I drive on real world streets. If you have to look for the difference with lab equipment and a wind tunnel.....there's no real difference!

Most of the specuguessing about the evil effects of E-10 is the same sort of FUD that we have to deal with (other) uninformed rants about battery failures in hybrids.
99.44% fertilizer.
Once the PHV emerges from its elephantine gestation period, it promises to be an even better Prius than the garden variety G3---ethanol notwithstanding.
How much they will charge for it is anybody's guess...buuuuut.... they're almost certainly going to be priced out of my depth band anyway.
However (comma!) the technology will eventually trickle down to more humbly optioned Priuses (or some unnamed competitor) and then I'll be allllll over it like a hobo on a ham sandwich!

Trickle down technology.

 

FuelEconomy.Gov estimates the price of the Prius PHV as $27,000 - $34,000.

 

Yes, that is what my friend in Japan says the car magazines in Japan has for the price as well.

 

That's before the $3,000 tax credit since it also lists Volt's price before it's $7,500 tax credit.

 

Maybe 2mpg in a Prius ... but NOT 2mpg in a Suburban. It'd only be about a 0.076 mpg improvement in that huge of a vehicle.


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