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Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by gussomer, Mar 18, 2011.

  1. gussomer

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    New member here...this is a repost from my first post elsewhere on Priuschat.com.

    This tale starts with a dad (me) who sold his soon-to-be 17 year old step-daughter her first, very own car....a 2004 Chevy Malibu Maxx for pennies on the dollar. It has been a good car, but gas prices demanded change! My hunch told me I wanted a Prius. My research on Consumer Reports confirmed that. The Prius met my safety, reliability, fuel savings criteria....and had the cargo space to keep the family dog. The hunt was on!

    I had been looking at Prii for a few weeks and after test driving a 2008 and 2011, I decided I wanted a used 2010 Prius. Last night I went to look at a 2010 Prius II with 13,700 miles being sold by a private seller. The ad had just been posted online earlier that afternoon. When I had asked the seller on the phone, he said the car was in excellent condition. Having spent two weeks pricing new and used Prii here in the Utah area, I could not believe the low selling price being offered by this particular seller. (Price revealed later in the post) .

    I left work early and hurried my way to look and hopefully buy the car before anyone else. When we arrived to look at the car, I saw minor blemishes on the exterior, but nothing of concern. The seller did reveal upon inquiry that the car had some body damage repaired on the front, right side. He made it sound like no big deal. We asked if we could take the car for a spin and be back real soon...which turned out to be 2 hours.

    During the test drive, I found some paperwork in the glove box indicating the car had been wrecked and auctioned. Even though I saw no physical damage, the low asking price now made sense. Without contacting the seller, I immediately took the car to the nearest Toyota dealership to get a thorough inspection. I emphasized that the car apparently had been wrecked and needed a thorough check.

    While the car was being inspected, I asked for and received a Car Fax from the dealership. Making the most of our wait, my wife and I opted to look at used cars sitting on the lot. There was one Prius that was same year and package as ours but with twice as many miles...but it was certified, meaning it still had same warranties as new cars. Thinking I had negotiating leverage, I revealed to the salesman that we were having another prospective car inspected because it apparently had been wrecked, "totaled", and auctioned. He responded with how the warranty would be void and really talked up the expense behind the electrical components should they fail. After crunching the numbers, the dealership gave me a quote on their certified car...bottom line, approximately $27,500! The car had 27,000 miles on it. I felt insulted.

    A few minutes later the inspection was completed. The mechanic told me almost word for word, "it's the same inspection we give to used cars that the dealership want to certify...except for the paperwork." He also had taken care of the the TSB recall on the brakes. The mechanic passed the car off with flying colors...it had been hit in the right front panel, which I already knew and which he found for himself based on missing VIN tags. The mechanic said the rebuild workmanship was very good. THE MECHANIC ALSO TOLD ME THAT ITEMS NOT AFFECTED BY THE LOCATION OF THE COLLISION ARE STILL VALID UNDER WARRANTY! He proceeded to tell me that the most important/expensive components were not near the collision area and thus, will still be covered under the normal warranty. I realize the mechanic may be incorrect, but I still had the assurance I was looking for.

    Cost for the TSB fix...free of course, the Car Fax...free, the dealership inspection...$100, the confidence I now had....priceless! With (1) Car Fax in hand, (2) evidence of a recent inspection from the seller, (3) my own inspection from the dealership, and (4) the knowledge of Toyota's reliability, and to some extent the mechanic's claim that much of the warranty will still be valid, and also the fact that they fixed the TSB issue, oh yeah, and (5) the dealer's over-priced quote....it was a no-brainer decision for me.

    Within an hour, we had bought the car from the private seller. Mere minutes later we got a text from the salesman asking what it would take for us to buy their certified used car...yes, a text. Little did he know I already bought and was actually driving MY NEW CAR...I paid the asking price of $18,200. May not seem like a steal to others, but considering it is nine grand cheaper than a certified dealership car with twice as many miles, frankly, I feel like I just stole cookies from the cookie jar! Gas prices are forecasted to reach $5 soon and with the Prius factory in Tsunami turmoil, I feel relieved to know I found the right car before the supply and demand crisis takes place.

    Picture of my new car attached. Looking forward to learning from others on this forum! Howdy all!
     

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  2. billinmd

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    Congratulations on your new Prius!
     
  3. spiderman

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    Wow, what a story. Welcome aboard and enjoy your new ride!
     
  4. twittel

    twittel Senior Member

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    I'd say you've done your due diligence, so congrats on your new car and welcome to PriusChat. Your car should be fine for miles and years to come.
     
  5. GSW

    GSW PRIUS POWER

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    +1. Totally agree. Hats off to you Gus. Well done!
     
  6. samsprius1

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    Yeah..Don't forget the Dealer+Doc fees about $300 bucks!
    You did it right! Enjoy the ride,Looks good to me!
     
  7. J5A

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    Congrats! Enjoy your new ride.
    I am shocked though you got in and out of a service dept/dealership in less than two hours on a walk-in appt. Consider yourself lucky (and blessed).
     
  8. The Electric Me

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    Yes. Congratulations.

    But you do realize this is the start of your Prius Tale..not the end...
     
  9. NoMoShocks

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    I think you have worked a great deal as long as you plan to keep the car for the bulk of it's useful lifetime, which of course you will, because if you replace it, the step daughter can inherit the Prius. When you are going to drive the car a long time, you don't need to worry about the resale value when someone else finds out is it salvaged.
     
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    Braver man than I
     
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    Does it have a salvage title?
     
  12. gussomer

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    NoMo, not looking to sell anytime soon. Plan to get at least 150k miles out of it. We have a Honda Ridgeline that will need replacing before then.

    I was told the other day by a Toyota salesman that a few years back during the outrageous gas prices that used Prii were selling for more than the MSRP listed cars at the dealership and that people were buying cars while they were in shipment. Now thats a tale!
     
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    Yes, it has a branded title. "Rebuilt" is stated at the top of the title. A roll of the dice, but overall, I feel very comfortable about it.
     
  14. DanMode

    DanMode Brooklyn Prius Guy

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    What a story! Enjoy your new ride! :)
     
  15. mmcdonal

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    Congrats. That is a very high price for a used Prius. I paid that much for a new IV last year with leather and Nav. Do you think it is the current gas prices that did it?
     
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    Now that I read another post on the Main Forum, perhaps it is the problems in Japan that will cause prices to rise for awhile this year based on demand that got the certified price so high.
     
  17. WarEagle

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    Are you referring to the Certified Used on the Toyota lot or the OP's price on the private seller's car?

    You either got a great deal or the DEAL OF A LIFETIME! :D

    To gussomer - Congrats on the new ride! I am sure you will LOVE it! Great cars and great mileage to boot.
     
  18. gussomer

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    Yeah, mmcdonal threw me off as well...but HAS to be referring to the dealer's quoted price. Personally, I think the price was so high because of the dealer...earlier in the week we test drove an '11 Prius III and the quote on that car was between 28K and 29K out the door.

    I do indeed love, love, love my new car. It seems efficient in every way imaginable...from the .25 drag coefficient to the shifting from reverse to drive with a push of a finger.
     
  19. rogerv

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    From the damage described it's hard to figure why it wound up with a salvage title. But from what I have learned in the past, the insurance company can total a car if they think it will cost too much to fix it, exceeding the value of the car. My parents had a car that was several years old, but in nice condition with low miles. It was sideswiped, causing cosmetic damage on the one side from bumper to bumper. Of course the insurance company wanted to total it. My dad arranged to take the payout, and then had the car fixed on his own. He then got a new title in the mail, which he didn't expect, showing the car was salvaged, thanks to the insurance company.
     
  20. bisco

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    ya, $18,000. for a new IV? i don't think so. and 27K for a cert. 2010? i can get a new 2011 II for 24K right now.