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Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Octane, Mar 4, 2011.

  1. dustoff003

    dustoff003 Blizzard Brigade #003

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    I may be wrong but I think that Grumpy's Cab is also his daily driving personal vehicle, when he is not working as a Taxi.
     
  2. GrumpyCabbie

    GrumpyCabbie Senior Member

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    I'm not wanting to get involved with any more BS.

    My cab is standard and not modified in any way. Mods would increase my insurance.

    It is also my own car. I pay for my fuel, insurance and repairs.

    Taxi rules are different in different towns/cities/counties/states and countries.

    I'm am surprised that my mpg is regarded as low (esp in the USA) when over here in the UK I am getting significantly more than any of the Euro diesel cars that are commonly used as taxis over here. Each town/city is different and my town is an old English town with narrow congested streets. Fuel economy can be broken down as follows (using UK not US mpg's - I'll let you convert).

    Petrol Automatic (Toyota Avensis, Ford Mondeo, VH Vectra) approx 25 mpg
    Petrol Manual trans (Avensis, Mondeo, Vectra) approx 28 mpg
    Diesel Automatic (Mondeo, Skoda Superb) approx 31 mpg
    Diesel Manual trans (Avensis, Mondeo, Vectra) approx 35/37 mpg

    Prius Petrol Automatic - approx 45-52 mpg (much more on a run)

    Average annual mileage is about 35k miles. Petrol is £1.32 a litre (£4.88/$7.83 a US gallon). Diesel is £1.39 a litre (£5.14/$8.25 a US gallon).

    Argue what you like about my figures. Any of my colleagues will tell you they are accurate. Work out the mileages and savings against the other automatic transmission cars available here. The mpg figures used are what WE get as taxis driving in OUR town and not the figures quoted by manufacturers which are much higher.

    To be honest I really can't be arsed to prove this more but I am MORE than happy about the savings I get with the Prius and so is my accountant. :cool:
     
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  3. cycle11111

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    Are you kidding me. Go look at the CTV article. They clearly state difference between Prius cabs and none Prius cabs - Prius costs them way less in fuel and way less in mtce. Cab companies are in it for the buck and I assure you if the Prius cost more they would ditch it in a second. I bet there are zero taxis of any brand/make that hit EPA numbers just based on high passenger loads plus how they drive (been in a cab lately they have no idea about slowly accelerating etc) so the comparison that is valid is non hybrid vs the hybrid.
     
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    The link in the article I was responding to shows "Andrew" from Yellow Cab reporting rather high mpg figures for their fleet.

    Kinda interesting don't you think given the extra loads, taxi driving patterns etc ?
     
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    Just in my personal experience, if you're stuck in traffic, MPG goes way up.

    This could be happening, or not. A cab with a fare would be able to drive in the carpool lane, and mpg drops there.
     
  6. Octane

    Octane Proud Member of 100 MPG Club

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    And don't forget that at the same time the gendarme leftist politicians in the Bay Area (Pelosi, Feinstein, and Fortney Stark) strongarmed Toyota into keeping New United's plant open while allowing GM completely off the hook.

    Equal protection under the law, indeed.
     
  7. telmo744

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    How about some respect, tpfun?:confused:
    Grumppy just had a very big post to answer all your questions, and still you make yourself "blind" over that eloquent writing.
    Sorry, you have just shown you are here to make normal people feel like stupid, when indeed you are the most despicable and arrogant poster.:mad:

    Mind my manners, but go look for someone to kick you out of here. In the butt.
     
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    To address your "concern", let me just say I'm hesistant to answer any post which starts with calling all this BS.

    What's the point ?
     
  9. SageBrush

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    There is no point to discuss ANYTHING with you. Take a hint.

    Today I cleaned the MAF and shook/vacuumed the air filters. Figure the cost of the alcohol and electricity rounded up to a penny. Then with trepidation that my going on 7 seven old Prius with its going on 7 seven year old battery might kick the bucket any second, I took the car for a spin. First 4.5 miles downhill followed by the uphill the same route -- 60 mpg. By that time the ICE was warm and I drove a further 10 miles gentle driving in town in a loop with so-so luck on signals -- 77 mpg for that part of the drive..

    So even though tpfun thinks my battery is dying, I've decided to keep the car for another oh... 15 years I hope. ;)

    Addendum: I keep making mistakes in the fuel economy arithmetic, sorry.
    First leg: 9 miles, 60 mpg
    End of second leg: Cumulative 19 miles, 68 mpg.
     
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  10. telmo744

    telmo744 HSD fanatic

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    @tfpun
    You are right, not for me to judge. Someone will, since this is public, it has rules, and you are, since you have not noticed before, a member. Like most of us that have been sharing info for some time.

    Others may speak for themselves, but in my opinion and from what I have seen, you have brought NOTHING to this forum except crispy posts, crossed ideas, and now, lack of respect.
     
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    You are lower than most of us for mileage, though. I am guessing it is because of cab conditions; perhaps idling. Probably "robust" accelerating, too, maybe not braking as early as some of us might because you have customers and make more money getting places quicker than saving a few bucks.
     
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    This whole thread is a "completely vertically" "screw job" and full of BS, isn't it ?

    Can we start again fresh ?
     
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    tp stands for Trash Prius, right? No, no fresh start for you!
     
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  14. Skoorbmax

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    LOL it kind of seems like it ;) In fact it is. Now, whether Skoorbmax stands for trash Volt I cannot objectively say, it's not fair to judge myself there so somebody else would have to, but when from your quiver you're drawing arrows like the high cost of repairing a bumper and how that translates to operating costs for a cab you're well out of the realm of practical comparison.
     
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    I think we should all thank tpfun for all of his Prius comments. It makes us all recall the positive attributes of being Prius owners. After owning many new cars over 40 years, I was so impressed with the Prius I purchased last July I just purchased another. We don't need to defend the Prius, we know what we have and so does tpfun who is just another Prius wannabe. :p
     
  16. telmo744

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    I admit some excess. Have read your posting in the thread about Japan earthquake, reminds me we are tiny dots when watched from space. :crazy:
    Please consider my apologies.
     
  17. Flaninacupboard

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    I think he's probably just some 16 year old who doesn't even have a driving licence.
     
  18. rpeeples

    rpeeples Experienced Toyota Owner

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    And what do you mean by that?

    Could it be that you refuse to see the truth? Do you not have an open mind? Have you been brainwashed by the liberal media for years and can't determine for yourself what is the truth? The liberal media has been telling America what to believe for years. It is time to wake up and smell the coffee. The truth is out there, but you have to have the intelligence to find it and to realize what is truth and what is hogwash.

    Toyota is the victim of a huge smear campaign concocted only to make them look bad, to try to make GM look better. Think about it, GM vehicles have been mostly junk for years. When they had financial troubles the government "bought" them out and remains the silent "owner". What does the government do best? Tell Americans what to believe. In this case, they are trying to tell people the best made vehicles are bad and one of the worst made is good. America is being brainwashed with hogwash.
     
  19. Flaninacupboard

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    I can't say for sure whther it was instigated by government, media, big oil, or some other party, but it definitely seems to have been a made up story pushed from somwhere, since outside of america no one really seemed to care. Mind you, we were all pretty sure it was just people too thick to drive pressing the wrong pedal. After all, when the rest of the world is used to three pedals it's kind of funny to think people with only two pedals might get them mixed up...
     
  20. tpfun

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    No need to... no harm done.

    At the end of the day, it's just a car , a good one I will agree.