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Baby did a bad, bad thing when washing his car.

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by Skoorbmax, Mar 4, 2011.

  1. Skoorbmax

    Skoorbmax Senior Member

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    Yes, I admit I just washed the car with a filthy wintery wash rag that was uncleaned since the last time and this is the result. Some parts of the car look great, others are a scratchy mess. I won't do it again.

    Is this paint job screwed or can I recover it with polish or similar...?

    Thanks!
     
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    Meguiar's Scratch X works miracles. I would give that stuff a try. Doesn't look too bad from the pictures.
     
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    I took my '02 SLK into Car Toys and had them do a full detail which included a clay bar treatment in addition to buffing. Came out like a brand new car.
     
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    I have had good luck with Scratch X also, won't hurt to give it a try.
     
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    Clay bar is like Christ himself cleaning the car. Takes a lot of elbow grease but is a magical, magical thing. However, I cannot clean out scratches. I'll give the Meguiar's Scratch X a try, thanks!
     
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    Use Meguiar's Ultimate Compound to rub it out. And please, use a microfiber towel in the future!!
     
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    Sorry to hear/see that. If that pic is representative of how a lot of the rest of the car looks, I'd take it to a professional detailer for a paint correction. Especially with a dark color paint, unless you're very experienced at detailing, you could make the situation worse. And unless you have a random orbital machine, you probably won't be able to much more than temporarily fill in the imperfections.
     
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    Several. Clean ones. And two buckets; one for the clean soapy water, and one for the dirty rinse water. No sense rubbing the dirt all over your car as you wash it. :cool:
     
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    Well the thing I use is this really fluffy car washing mit. It's lovely. When it's not full of rocks from the previous wash ;)

    Much of the car does not look like this, I'd say most is scratch free.

    I know that polish or compound does remove paint and there's only so much of it there, though. I may have to find a few hundred bucks and get it done properly, though I suppose that could wait since it won't get worse.
     
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    Good tip,Washing cars this weekend! Meguiars USA, Good video!

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVcVpS0-Eck]YouTube - Quik Tips Series - Washing 101[/ame]
     
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    I wouldn't bother paying to get it repaired. It'd be an endless chase. What's that stupid law called? You fix it, and something else will happen. You don't fix it and it'll never happen again.

    Self inflicted wounds suck, but now you know.
     
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    How do those little swirls get on there? Truth be told the ones near the beginning I have on this car as well. I am almost positive it was from waxing and when I rubbed the wax off it had hardened too much. Now it certainly seems that those incredibly fine swirls are absolutely part of the top layer and can be totally removed by a detailer, but they are only noticeable when the car is pristine clean and looked at from a couple inches away with the correct lighting; i.e. I don't care.

    I had a first pass with the Scratch X last night but am reserving judgement until I can see it in the light of day :)

    I was doing everything per spec in that vid other than the rinsing of wash mitt hehe

    Did buy some more gear, though, so I'm not stuck using the same old wash mitt.
     
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    +1, and prefereably an orbital polisher like the Porter Cable 7424.

    REV
     
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    This is why its so, so important that you use proper materials and proper wash techniques when caring for your car. I've had people scoff at me when telling them not to use Windex and paper towels to wash their cars on here...all it takes is a dirty rag to do damage like this...swirls and scratching are ALWAYS caused by improper tools or improper technique.

    In order to remedy this properly the car really needs to be machine polished by someone who is competent. I say someone who is competent because for every 1 competent detailer...there are 3 hacks who will make it worse.

    You can either buy the tools and learn to do it yourself or pay a pro...visit www.autopia.org
     
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    Looks better than when my MIL "did me a favor" when I was out of town and took the bugs off my last vehicle with a 3M green scrubbie. :eek:
    Hope you can get it cleared up, sorry it got so scratched up.
     
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    Well, all we've had last two days is rain and snow so I've not been able to reevaluate. I'm still cautiously hopeful that I can take the edge off with the scratch x but God knows when it will clear up enough to actually find out! My intent is to take the edge off the scratches with the scratch X so that only by knowing a scratch is already there could you see it, which will be good enough indefinitely. To get it perfect (assuming it's not down past top layer and I think it's not) I would need a pro for sure. I'll post fresh pics when I can get it washed in daylight, however.
     
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    I'm sure its not through the clearcoat. Can you feel the scratches with your fingernail.

    The ScratchX isn't going to work, thats too large an area and without the proper tools and technique you will just introduce more swirling and scratching into the paint.

    What kind of towels do you have?
     
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    It can happen to the best of us. I put some scratches on my brand new Rogue last week doing a similar stunt, and I have been washing my own cars for over 60 years.
     
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    I didn't use towels but rather microfiber wash mitt. I think it's a nice mitt and it's from the car care section but probably should have heeded better the hint given me by the little rocks in the bottom of the wash bucket :)

    I can definitely feel the scratches, but this goes for all scratches even seriously minor tiny ones on the car.

    I don't intend to have this solved with Scratch X. I just want something to soften it up so that only I will be able to see the scratches because I know where they are. The ones on the back I cannot retake a good picture--camera keeps focusing on anything but the surface of the paint because it's so clean. I did, however, get a pretty good before/after on a long scratch on the side.

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    Despite washing it right after there is some some hazing or sheen from the scratch x, so it might still be masking to some degree. I won't know for sure until I can get the rest of the soap off, but the weather outside is awful and I'm tired of working on it. Based on that pic, though, the scratch does look a lot better. I won't work on it further if it stays as is, at risk of spoiling the paint further. I'm using fine cotton clothes to rub it in per instructions.

    An amazon reviewer said with scratch x to work it nice and wet and perpendicular to the scratch. I guess what it's doing is really sanding down the edges of the scratch so that light reflects differently. I suppose that's the entire point of all scratch products--that is, unless, you lower the overall level of paint down to the bottom of the scratch (which it's probably also doing to some degree).