Prius+ - It's the Prius v that you wanted but can't have

Europe has alot of 7 seat MPV, many with no luggage room when seating 7...
Toyota Corolla Verso has less than 100 liters available in that layout...

Prius + wouldn't get that market share if not held 7.

(there is another thread on this, why not merge?)

 

They'll probably be small and thin - just enough for temporary use or kids. I'm sure they'll be removeable due to the hybrid battery. 4 passengers and loads of luggage room or 6 passengers and no luggage room.

 

it wil have the 3r row seats

 

So will i, i also have them in my current Toyota Verso.

 

j/k wanted to pour salt in those wounds

 

with a 0-60 at 11.5 seconds, how fast do you think the v is going to get to 60 with 7 people?



and how well will it handle when it has to do a emergency maneuver with 7?

 

That depends on whether that 11.5 sec was achieved with full load of 5 adults ....

 

13s and badly?
Its not like toyota is really punishing us by not bringing these things over. I assume their marketing folks don't think a slow 7 seater won't sell in the US at the prices they would need to charge to make a profit.

 

A slow seven seater? I'd say it was a 5+2 seater.

They change the marketing for the different area requirements. Americans want luggage, Europe wants more passenger seats.

 

Probably as good or better than those underpowered TDIs that get worse MPG.

 

Is there a huge demand for 7-seat vehicles in Europe? Do Europeans tend to have five kids on average?

I'm assuming most of the people that buy a seven seater for their family will only have two full grown adults, maybe a teen or two, and the rest will be baby seats or 50 pound children. It shouldn't be much worse than a regular Prius with four adults. Now, if you load ANY small car with seven 275-pound adults (7x275=1925!), you're probably going to experience a NOTICEABLE difference in acceleration (AND BRAKING!!!!) and handling.

 

i would say there is a great market for a 2 seater or hybrid aygo and yaris not a 7 seater thats more something for the us.

 

It's a market segment taken by the mini-van in the US, except over here such cars need to be smaller (for parking, smaller city streets & fuel price). The Chrysler Voyager used to sell well here in the UK, but the latest version has rather square styling and just doesn't seem to sell anywhere near as well as it used to. That and the 3.6 v6 petrol engine was too thirsty for here and the 2.0 petrol and diesel options were underpowered.

 

I've got no dog in the hunt, but Americans seem to have larger space and acceleration demands than some euro markets. The government also has more stringent safety requirements that add more cost and weight. Of course in the UK you seem to pay more for everything. I believe it was doug that said not many americans ponied up more money for the extra row in the rav 4. The prius v is even a smaller car, and I doubt toyota would be more successful with it.

 

I would be very interested to see facts here. Gone are the days where European or Jap cars had to be completely redesigned to meet the safety requirements of the US.

I'd have said the safety requirements over here are much much more stringent than 15 years ago and probably similar or equal to the US.

Again, does anyone have any facts or details of any significant requirements a US car has over a similar model sold in Europe?