Toyota Unveils Entune, App-Ready Sync Fighter, At CES

Re: Toyota Announces Entune Multimedia System at the 2011 Consumer Electronics Show

3. Yes, I can click the onscreen Off button whenever the screen comes up (or I can just ignore it, as I do nowadays). But that's not the point, I want that screen to not come up, since it is not helpful but confusing instead. I haven't figured out how and have given up trying.
5. Agreed, but the point is, does not feel up to par with the times.
6. Not a big deal to me either, but again, not keeping with the times.
7. Pretty much the same, but again the point is, not competitive.

 

Re: Toyota Announces Entune Multimedia System at the 2011 Consumer Electronics Show

You should be able to "disable" it from coming up at all by switching to a different view/guidance mode. I believe the Toyota name is "single map". The voice command on the 2nd gen was "single map" or "change to single map".

You should be able to do this w/o voice command by pressing one of the onscreen buttons on the left side, followed by the button for a single map.

 

Re: Toyota Announces Entune Multimedia System at the 2011 Consumer Electronics Show

Yes, I have it in single map mode actually (I am impressed that you could sense my preferred view mode so accurately! ). However, even in that mode, the screen splits when a turn is imminent. However thankfully, the "sane" half still shows the actual map, and I have trained myself to seek it instead of the made up geometry.

 

Re: Toyota Announces Entune Multimedia System at the 2011 Consumer Electronics Show

amen with Pandora directly on the car, i wont get those audio dropouts everytime my phone receives a text msg!!

 

You need the DST on/off button, because some states ignore DST. (Arizona)

 

So after reading this discussion about the Entune from what I can figure out is that it will not work on my 2010 once it is released?

 

Hey Doug, what is the thermodynamic enthalpy of reaction inside the cylinder chambers at 2.456mm of expansion inside a Prius cylinder at 1843rpm?
Just kidding! Fortunately for me, I work in a large company and I completely understand you. I work with our product managers and I know exactly what they do and what they have no control over (take the above question, for example). I fully respect you and I would like to thank you for listening to the feedback here, and I hope you will pass it along in one of those fancy ten people "CC" emails through the corporate address book. Thank you.

One possible suggestion I could make - something that my company does on occasion - is to offer a discount to owners of the previous system that would like the new system. For example, if the new radio costs $1200 list price, you could offer 2010 Prius owners the system for $700 including dealer installation. Just a thought. I do know that when I had a radio installed in my Corolla, it took Best Buy about 30minutes from start to finish (there was no line and the guy got right to work).

THANK YOU! :welcome:

 

It was noted in an earlier post in this thread by the Prius Team that Entune is not backwards compatible with existing hardware so your suggestion is not an option in this scenario.

I also worked in a lage company that introduced products that were new, enhanced and obsoleted the old one. In the current business environment that is how you stay competitive. In many cases I took factory folks out to visit customers that used the older products to get feedback on the new ones before release and one of the issues that always came up was how to properly transition to the newest version of the product. And this was a very big part of the product manager's job. And that exactly was his job title. There were of course many situations where there was no backward compatibility and at that point solutions were designed for the individual situation which in most cases maximized customer satisfaction and minimized the cost involved for my company. It was part of the product manager's job desctiption: To develop effective transition plans for new products.

So here we are with this crappy audio system with no meaningful audio commands and no search capability for large music collections. Suddenly we are told that there is a new product coming out and there is no backwards compatibility and sadly, no transision plan other than to buy a new Toyota. Now there is a subset of customers for the Prius NAV/Audio system that have issues with 1. The inaccuracy of the NAV system. 2. The problems with the audio system mentioned above and 3. The substandard performance of the FM radio.

Now I know that there are many users that could care less for any number of reasons about these issues with the NAV/Audio sustem. But there is certainly a group and in some cases very vocal in this forum that feel that, due to a lack of a transition plan for us inparticular something needs to be done. Doug Coleman posted that based on the complaints he heard recently he would go back and see what he could do and at this point he has the ball. As he correctly pointed out Toyota has an infrastructure that I know nothing about. I hope that he can navigate his company to find a solution that maximizes the satisfaction of the customers involved and minimizes the impact on Toyota. I hope to hear from him soon.

 

You assume correctly. See post #13 in this thread.

 

Re: Toyota Announces Entune Multimedia System at the 2011 Consumer Electronics Show

I will echo this.

I am about to place an order for a new 2011 Prius in the UK. Despite being tempted by the top of the line T Spirit with Safety Pack (the equivalent of the Americans' ATP), I'm downgrading to a mid-range T4 without nav instead. I refuse to waste thousand of pounds on a navigation system outperformed in every way by my £200 Tomtom 740 LIVE.

I've been following the Prius forums in the UK and the USA since the third generation was launched, and I am frankly astonished that even the most basic of shortcomings with the nav (eg ancient maps) have still not been addressed by Toyota. I'm embarassed for them.

Oh, and way to go with the Entune launch. Rather than enthusing new customers, they've PO-ed their loyal existing ones. In soccer they call this an own goal.

 

entune just won the best of ces award beating the aftermarket onstar addon

 

So, how many cars and car companies have/had a transition plan for upgrades to a completely new generation of telematics/in car electronics for existing owners? Please name them, esp. if they aren't luxury cars.

Is there a plan/path to upgrade people w/Ford Sync w/mono a 1-2 line dot matrix display to My Ford Touch w/3 color LCDs, 2 being in the gauge cluster? How about people that have older Ford nav systems or don't have nav at all?

When I had an 02 Nissan Maxima, the optional nav system that I didn't have was CD based (a bit antiquated even for that year). Are there upgrades to make them DVD based?

I used to make a living in the software industry and part of the time was in mobile devices. In many cases, the upgrade path was murky (up to the OEM or carrier) or didn't exist at all.

 

This one's very simple. Toyota just got knocked off the top of the heap by Ford. GM and Ford darned near went out of business for doing things the old way and now they are lean and hungry. If Toyota doesn't renerw itself and innovate then they will get behind and never return to the top. The old ways just don't cut it anymore and these are the types of things they are going to have to start doing because they can't afford to lose a single customer.

And by the way, Ford Sync was fine just the way it was when I used it.

 

you will not get free or cheap upgrade to the next gen navigation, thats unheard of, and probably even impossible to do. Who knows how many parts they had to change for new navi.

I would say that Entune shows that Toyota has heard people complain about its infotainment systems, and provided new product that does it much better... you could trade in your old model for new one for instance if it matters so much to you.

 

I didn't come across anything on whether the navigation part is overhauled.
Frankly, I don't care too much for an additional pricey subscription component (if that's what the Entune apps piece requires). Even if it piggybacks on my smartphone data plan, I have one of the limited data/month packages (damn AT&T!), as a result of which my use of streaming content such as Pandora is severely curtailed. Other than that, I don't yet see the killer potential of something like OpenTable on the dash, a service I don't use presently, or even if I do in the future, I fail to see why I may not access it from my iPhone?

 

I don't even have an iPhone so I guess I'm screwed. I don't go to movies since I bought the 52 inch LCD and joined Netflix. I make my reservations before I go to restaurants. I guess this newfangled audio system just ain't for me. I'm back to listening to my MP3 player plugged into the AUX port. It's great..I can change songs albums and genres even while driving. No grey-outs! Back to the future....

 

If I'm correct, the whole Entune system is like a computer, right? If that is true, then I have observed throughout the rest of society that computers are constantly improving every six months. The computer I am typing this on is already outdated, my iPhone 3G was outdated when the iPhone 4 came out. Right now, at the Consumer Electronics show, hundreds of new computer technology products are coming out that are making the 2010 products obsolete. (btw, Apple is releasing an new iPad in March2011 that will make the current one obsolete - Has it even been 12 months???). I think we all need to realize that if you buy a new car that has a computer in it, yes, just like a computer you purchase at Best Buy, it will be obsolete the following year. Did Apple give me a new iPhone? No, I had to buy one. When my laptop computer became obsolete, did Dell give me a new one for free? Nope.
HOWEVER, Apple did offer me a discounts to people that owned an iPhone for a year (people that owned for two years were considered new customers - that was me), but I have a friend that only had his 12 months and he received a discount. I was thinking when I replied to Doug Coleman that perhaps Toyota could offer 2010 Prius owners a discount on the full hardware replacement. Pull the old hardware out and install new hardware and offer a discount to 2010 owners. My example was that if the new hardware cost $1200, perhaps they could offer it to 2010 owners for $700 including installation.

 

Well, that's one take. My perspective is, and I express it since someone brought it up several posts back, how could Toyota ever ship something with a user interface that is so incredibly frustrating as the Nav package in the 2010 Prius? Don't people at Toyota with sane expectations review these things before they get approved? I wouldn't complain if it was sold for even $500, but for $2000??
Not to speak of pushing XM satellite radio...
People who purchased any generation of the iPhone bought it because they loved it. Apple hasn't yet tried to push some tacky accessories with their phone for any cost, with a presumable intent of pushing subpar goods to a clientele already enraptured by the phone. I honestly believe that with this Nav package, Toyota has pulled just that.

I am not demanding a free or discounted next gen system. I knew exactly what I was buying when I bought this car. I am just saying how it is since we are on the topic.

 

Ramdulari, I think I understand what you are saying here. You are saying that each time Apple released a new product, it was awesome at that time. When Toyota released the 2010 Prius, the nav/computer was SUBPAR at that time. Is that correct?

If that is true, then this thread is making a lot more sense now.