Unintended Acceleration -- While Parking

I'll give you an example. Several members and I have attempted to educate you on the false perception of UA during the regen to braking transition when going over potholes, and I even mentioned Bob Wilson's data pointing to this, but all you're countering with is "Have you read the so many reports describing it as UA?"

If you actually took Toyota Recalls Put into Context by Edmunds.com — Edmunds.com into consideration, why are we continuing to get posts like Toyota: Most Complaints by Manufacturer by Wide Margin from you?

You're obviously biased and have an agenda driven by an overwhelming desire to prove your friend right.

 

It sounds like everyone has stated their opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. What is the sense in continuing the discussion? If you think nothing is wrong with the Prius, then buy one or if you have one keep driving it. If you think there is something wrong with the Prius, don't buy one or if you have one then get rid of it. Seems fairly simple to me.

 

Well, it appears NASA found nothing, going by what others have posted. And, the NHTSA info I was using was adjusted to account for number of cars sold, not overall complaints. That would seem to be a much more accurate measure to me. Here's the link:

NHTSA Data Dive 3: 117 Models Ranked By Rate Of UA Incidents | The Truth About Cars

As I said, there are UA complaints on all models of cars. Toyota certainly had issues with the floor mats and pedal, which seem to be fixed. Listening to you, you'd think the Prius was far and away the worst, and a deathmachine. And, you are discounting all the many posters that have contributed here, many who have researched and discussed this at length. It appears you have just started looking into this. Clearly, you have an agenda. My suggestion is to get rid of your Prius as soon as you can, and get an old car without an electronic throttle control. Nothing anyone says here makes a bit of difference to you.

 

After reading all of these postings, I agree with you the OP has an agenda.
I believe his is trying to find fault with the Prius on UA to support his friend's claim of UA such as not to accept responsibility for the parking crash for insurance purpose.

 

You're more than happy to supply only the links (mostly anecdotal and junk science) that attempt to support your agenda, yet refuse to do a search within this forum for a well known, respected poster with hard data. Is this your definition of "unbiased research?"

As I already mentioned very early in this thread, this is expected as Toyota has been the subject of an intense media hysteria made worse by our government. Pepsi ranked #1 by a wide margin for needles found in their cans but that doesn't make it true. Same goes with the iPhone regarding the death grip. Try again.

 

Great point too. In the middle of the UA hysteria, this little old lady around here drove her Camry into a funeral home. She said, of course, that the car took off on her! Funny, since it's died down, you don't hear too many of those stories anymore.

 

I just bought one last thurdsay. But, if I really thought the car was unsafe and ran a high risk of killing or harming me because of this issue, then I would figure out a way to get rid of it, regardless of the cost associated.

 

Yet you're doing a nice job of ignoring them in your overall conclusion, instead relying more extremely on junk research proposed by Gilbert et al.

I never backpeddled; I clearly stated it very early in this thread and yes, I don't deny they're anecdotal. Do you really think Secretary of Transporation LaHood would have said "People ought to stop driving their GM immediately and take them to the dealer" after they wasted millions of taxpayer money bailing out the U.S. auto industry? Unfortunately, it's not just foreign companies but successful companies. Apple and Pepsi were also victims of media hysteria and they're both successful American companies.

Anecdotal evidence aside, there's still no hard evidence suggesting that UA is a real issue.

 

EXACTLY! Pretty simple stuff. Again, you clearly have an agenda, and have listened to NOTHING anyone has said here, even though these are educated owners that have been through all of this before. This thread has served no purpose whatsoever, other than to completely deplete all of your credibility. I actually feel much better about my Prius now, and will surely buy another.

 

Nylion did get a V with ATP but got rid of it for a 2010 370Z because he missed the fun of driving.

I'm not saying UA does not exist in a Toyota at all (and there have been recalls to correct the problem mechanically, stuck floor mats, etc.), but the vast majority of them stem from driver errors and people blaming Toyota. There was also so much buzz about needles in Pepsi cans but it doesn't mean those cans actually contained needles!

 

The "defensiveness" comes from irritation over your shift in "burden of proof." Not one single incident of SUA has been proven in any Toyota. Not one "software glitch" has been documented. Any number of self-serving anecdotal stories does not shift the burden to Toyota. A logical exercise requires that you provide proof- which no "story" can do.

NHTSA called in NASA because they couldn't find any problem, and NHTSA really tried. In order to insure the truth got out two of their employees had to secure whistleblower protection against Administrator Strickland (a Ralph Nader disciple as are all of the other anti-Toyota "experts").

 

Uhhhh, my point exactly! For a while there it was viral! What it's turning out to be is all talk, but no substance.

 

If there was anything this serious wrong with any car, it would be documented and proven, by someone somewhere. The fact that it is a Toyota would surely expedite that process. This has been a highly publicised topic for over a year, and nothing.