1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Another Denier Wakes up and smells the coffee,,

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by icarus, Oct 7, 2010.

  1. xs650

    xs650 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2010
    4,539
    1,433
    9
    Location:
    Northern California
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    II
    Most sects ignore the really ugly parts unless they suit the sects purpose.
     
  2. spiderman

    spiderman wretched

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2009
    7,543
    1,558
    0
    Location:
    Alaska
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    II
    To the unbeliever the Bible is "encrypted" and appears to be riddles and such. One has to "know" God first before they can "know" what the Bible means. It is life's user guide for the believer.

    It is just plain funny how a non-believer will use the Bible/scripture to make a point against it.
     
  3. F8L

    F8L Protecting Habitat & AG Lands

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2006
    19,011
    4,081
    50
    Location:
    Grass Valley, CA.
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    The mind can play funny games and psychology is an interesting field. :) Once a person forms a well developed mental frame by which they interpret world's information, it is difficult to change their opinions without altering that frame.
     
  4. daniel

    daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2004
    14,487
    1,518
    0
    Location:
    Spokane, WA
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    The Bible is an anthology of diverse writings, by writers with different beliefs and different viewpoints. As a result, it is full of passages that contradict each other. This makes it easy to find a passage to support whatever view you like.

    In other words, if you are deluded into thinking that you know the "Truth" and all other religions are wrong, it's easy to gloss any given passage into a meaning that suits you.

    Bible-believing Christians will argue vehemently about what the Bible really says, and sometimes they'll even come to blows over it. And note, please, that in these arguments, both sides are absolutely convinced that they KNOW god.

    An amusing example: Several sects share the belief that at the end of times the wicked will be killed and there will be a thousand-year interlude, after which the wicked will be resurrected and judged a second time. But some of these sects believe that at this time the wicked will have a chance to repent and be saved, while other sects go ballistic in their excoriations of this view, insisting rather that at the second judgement all the wicked will be killed again.

    Such an arcane point of dogma, and yet both sides, equally Bible-believing, equally convinced that they know god, are equally certain that their belief is the correct one and the other side is deluded or worse.

    The only thing that we can really know for sure about god is that IF there is a god, we cannot possibly know anything about him, because any book we read, any revelation we may have, any personal communication or answered prayer, could equally well have come from a supernatural deceiver. That is, there is no possible way for a human to know whether the being he is communicating with is a god or a demon or a space alien with sufficient technology or spiritual development to make himself appear to be god.
     
  5. xs650

    xs650 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2010
    4,539
    1,433
    9
    Location:
    Northern California
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    II

    It's even funnier how a believer will use circular logic by saying if it's in the Bible it's true.

    Human beings are tribal/pack beings. They are hard wired to believe in a leader and organized religion plays that to a T with their mythical leader that each religious sect claims gave them an exclusive franchise.
     
  6. F8L

    F8L Protecting Habitat & AG Lands

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2006
    19,011
    4,081
    50
    Location:
    Grass Valley, CA.
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Or he/she is receiving false sensations from the right temporal lobe. lol

    YouTube - The God Helmet
     
  7. spiderman

    spiderman wretched

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2009
    7,543
    1,558
    0
    Location:
    Alaska
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    II
    So true. :)
    I did find my psych course extremely interesting and may have minored in it if I hadn't gotten distracted.
     
  8. F8L

    F8L Protecting Habitat & AG Lands

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2006
    19,011
    4,081
    50
    Location:
    Grass Valley, CA.
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Girls are trouble! ;)
     
  9. spiderman

    spiderman wretched

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2009
    7,543
    1,558
    0
    Location:
    Alaska
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    II
    Very good point D... I would submit that you are being deceived.
     
  10. spiderman

    spiderman wretched

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2009
    7,543
    1,558
    0
    Location:
    Alaska
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    II
    Not so much that than the liquid type of distraction. ;)
     
    1 person likes this.
  11. F8L

    F8L Protecting Habitat & AG Lands

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2006
    19,011
    4,081
    50
    Location:
    Grass Valley, CA.
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Alcohol affects the brain. I bet it affects the right temporal lobe too! Uhh ohh..... Maybe there is some truth to people worshiping the bottle as their god. lol

    I'm totally kidding man. :)
     
  12. daniel

    daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2004
    14,487
    1,518
    0
    Location:
    Spokane, WA
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    You are the one who believes that there is "someone" out there, and that that someone is "god." You are the one hearing voices.
     
  13. spiderman

    spiderman wretched

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2009
    7,543
    1,558
    0
    Location:
    Alaska
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    II
    You are more right than you know.
     
  14. spiderman

    spiderman wretched

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2009
    7,543
    1,558
    0
    Location:
    Alaska
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    II
    Not someone... God. I have not actually heard a voice.
     
  15. icarus

    icarus Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2007
    4,884
    976
    0
    Location:
    earth
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    When the rapture comes, can I have your car?
     
  16. spiderman

    spiderman wretched

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2009
    7,543
    1,558
    0
    Location:
    Alaska
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    II
    Hopefully I won't be driving it, but sure.:)

    p.s. just because I am not home doesn't (necessarily) mean I have been raptured.
     
    1 person likes this.
  17. xs650

    xs650 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2010
    4,539
    1,433
    9
    Location:
    Northern California
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    II

    It took me awhile to get it, but :D at your PS.:rockon:

    If you are driving will you at least have time to take a quick jab at the emergency brake so the car might stop in a straight line and be of use to us Earthbound souls?
     
  18. spiderman

    spiderman wretched

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2009
    7,543
    1,558
    0
    Location:
    Alaska
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    II
    Good question... guess we will just have to wait and see.
     
  19. spiderman

    spiderman wretched

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2009
    7,543
    1,558
    0
    Location:
    Alaska
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    II
    This is what I have been busting my hump on for the last couple of weeks (after work, w.e.). Been furring out the concrete stub walls and insulating. Also adding foam board to the rim joist.

    What a chore. Any advice?
     

    Attached Files:

  20. icarus

    icarus Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2007
    4,884
    976
    0
    Location:
    earth
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Make sure you use a good, tight vapor barrier on the warm side of the insulation. Personally, I would prefer to see Pink (or blue) board against concrete below grade as it won't absorb moisture.