How many Prius owners believe in Global Warming theory?

I've always admired people who can invent words that make sense!

And, I agree with Stev0 - let's just go with the course of action that seems to have the best outcome, regardless of how GW happened or didn't happen.

 

Hehehehehehe I used to frequently travel to the UK on business so I know what that means

 

I believe humans have .28% influence, which coincidently happens to be the amount of CO2 scientist say we contribute to the environment as compared to Mother Nature.

 

There really isn't anything wrong with that line of thought Stev0. The thing that seems to elude you and others on here is that fact that nearly everyone on this site has taken taken steps reduce their output of harmful gasses, fuel consumption, etc by buying a Prius! But that just isn't enough for you is it? A person comes on here to explain their different viewpoint to the theory and you all are over him like flies on you know what ("trolls", etc). That doesn't do a lot for your agenda.

 

I just know I'm going to buy a crapload of normal light bulbs that won't poison me if they break before the government makes them disappear.

 

We only have a limited amount of fuel left on this planet. We have used up resources at an alarming rate and from a common sense viewpoint, we simply need to make what we have left go further.It's irrelevent whether you believe in global warming or not when the price for a gaoon of fuel in the UK is $7-00 per gallon. (it went up again today)I don't know whether global warming is real or not as I am not a meteorologist, I only know that England is getting more extreme weather (just look at tyhe Golf-Ryder cup today)We also pay ridiculous tax and so we have to use economical cars. Our government has also have bought into Kyoto and now our buildings are being built so well insulated that soon (by 2014 I think), all new builds will need to be carbon neutral.

 

Global warming is not a theory , it is a fact. Do some research on planet temperatures, greenhouse gases, ocean temperatures, melting ice caps and glaciers, rising sea levels etc. Its not changes in the sun or normal changes. Its humans have kicked up the CO2 level by 30% since the industrial revolution started. Look at what's happening with flooding, hurricane intensity, and droughts. Look at how the Earth has never seen these CO2 levels in the last 400,000 years. How any one can deny what is happening is beyond me. I guess there are still some flat earther's out there. Ignorance in the US seems to know no bounds.

 

Hey, it's a perfectly cromulent word.

 

:thumb: I like CFL's but I've had about 4 or 5 blow on me emitting gaseous mercury vapor, a known neurotoxin, into my home, I don't like that one bit!

 

When you say you had them "blow" on you do you mean they cracked or exploded? Or did they just "burn out" similar to an incandescent bulb?

I've had 3 CFLs burn out on me since I switched...so much for the +7-year expected lifetime. Two were in enclosed fixtures and the third was on a timer...locations/usage that were advised against.

Unless you're standing over them taking deep breaths when they crack/explode it's highly unlikely you'll get enough mercury vapor to hurt you. There's more mercury in a serving of seafood than in a defective CFL bulb. Now, if they were blowing out on a daily basis, you could get enough mercury vapor to be worried about it.

 

Citation please.

Because my references indicate that anthropogenic CO2 emissions are about 26% of total CO2 emissions - luckily the earth is currently able to reabsorb a significant portion of our CO2 emissions.

The warming potential of human emissions is good for about 2 W/sq-m - the bulk of which is a result of CO2 emissions (2nd place goes to methane emissions).

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas]Greenhouse gas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

 

I had a crapload of them when moving out of my last apartment, 20 years ago, but refused to pay their hideous operating cost any more.

Finally gave them away to a neighbor who, due to impending dementia, steadfastly refused to convert to CFL. Her electric bills were hideous, but not giving her those energy hogs wasn't going to reduce her bill.

 

Really ? You think scientists, who are masters of so many complicated things you (and I) can barely nibble at, don't know anything about natural cycles ? And you think you are sane

http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

 

lol

Am I as intelligent as a scientist? No

Do some scientists think that global warming/climate change exists and is man made? Some do, other don't.


The scientists were right about the Ozone layer but there are many other times they've been completely wrong too.

Human emissions are diddly squat compared to one puff of a volcano.


Maybe I'll change my mind once I stop getting taxed for something that has divided even the best scientific minds. Equally, just because I think Global Warming is a load of cobblers doesn't mean I don't believe in energy conservation and lowering pollution.

 

to be fair, i have some curly bulbs. my biggest beef with this is that they want to kill the standard bulb, but they haven't figured out how to integrate the curlies into all of our sockets. if you've got dimmer switches or lights on a photo sensor, you're screwed. if you live in the north where you get sub freezing temps, then any outdoor lights or garage lights aren't going to be as effective because it takes 5 minutes to get the bulb close to full brightness.

as usual with the enviro groups, we jump in and rush things without thinking them through. they want to limit us to expensive bulbs that can't be used in many cases and require special disposal and can be health concern if they break. they use less electric which is great, but the people pushing to require these bulbs and outlaw standard bulbs either didn't think this through, or really don't care about anything outside of the energy world.

 

Not and actual explosion but I've been in the room twice when they start crackling and sizzling then a audible PoP with smoke. This is what the EPA says to do with CFL's

Cleaning Up a Broken CFL | Cleanup and Safe Disposal of Compact Fluorescent Light Bulbs | US EPA

Kate Kelly: "Green" Light Bulbs Have Mercury: Who Knew?



None of the above makes me feel comfy with CFL's. :nono:

 

how u rationalize reducing your footprint in this world is no concern of mine, as long as you simply DO IT!!.

buying a Prius to prevent GCC is like saying you wear a seat belt to save your life in a crash. wouldnt it be easier to drive slower and safer and not crash?

and what about simply reducing the hit to the environment? imm, i got a Prius because it does not matter what we are doing world climate or the economy of a foreign country. what about the air i breathe.

can you argue that driving another car is better you and your family health-wise?

i lived in Riverside CA in the early 80's before CARB. we averaged 5-10 stage 3 smog alerts (being outside 8 hours a day was the equivalent of smoking a ½ pack of cigarettes) and a few dozen stage 2 alerts every year

since then, CARB has reduced pollutants by autos and businesses. stage 3 alerts have nearly disappeared. so tell me that the car you drive does not make a difference

 

So how do you feel about the Earth orbiting around the Sun theory? A consensus hasn't been reached on that, either.

 

As someone living in the fallout zone of the Mt. St. Helens blast, I must respond ...

This wasn't true when Ronald Reagan claimed it during his campaign, and it still isn't true. It was an early warning sign of his impending Alzheimer's disease.

 

Great - so why don't you listen to them?

If by some, you mean nearly all and by other you mean a few who argue over the details - then yes, I agree.

Yes - that's because it's science. With Science, theories are formed based on the basis of our current knowledge. Based on our current knowledge, global warming is real. Global warming theory has been around for over a century.

A bit backwards there - human emissions are about 100x volcanic emissions.
Do volcanoes emit more CO2 than humans?

Any supposed division in scientists is a result of hype from the media. (See supposed global cooling alarmists in the '70s) The media loves to hype everything as that sells advertising. The politicians - well they'd like to think they understand the science but are largely falling prey to the media.

LED bulbs are getting much better - price is nearly reaching sane points and the light quality is now very good from quality bulbs. By the time that any legislation takes effect, I suspect that we'll have good quality affordable LED bulbs that will out perform CFLs without the mercury.

I think you'll find that the legislation requiring minimum efficiency standards for lighting will go a long ways towards improving efficiency of lighting and reducing energy consumption.