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adventures with the PHV model Prius

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by john1701a, Aug 19, 2010.

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  1. giora

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    Danny,
    You are correct - there was (and is) only one Gen3 model in Israel. AS you did, I have added some accessories but not in a "package"
    I have got mine exactly a year ago, 18500 km with overall 23.6 km/l.
    My previous car was Gen2 Prius - 2006 to 2009 61000 km with overall 20.8 km/l. Sold it easily above published price.
    Giora.
     
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  2. giora

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    Yes, me too, and did you find any mpg improvement in HV mode as compared to your experience with Gen3 on basis of similar driving conditions?
    Giora.
     
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    John, this kind of surprises me. Given your long association with the Prius, I figured you'd be hypermiling the whole time, keeping off the interstates, etc. I don't often get above 2400 rpm in my Gen II, do you normally accelerate like that or were you deliberately testing the capability of the PHV system?
     
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    John is the esteemed leader of the "just drive it" camp, using only limited hypermiling techniques to show what prospective buyers can expect without really changing their driving habits.
     
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  5. john1701a

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    JUST DRIVE IT has been my motto since the very beginning, never wanting anything to do with special techniques for higher efficiency. You just drive like you normally would.

    3500 RPM is what I see every single day. That's what I've called "brisk" acceleration since the very beginning. So, I don't consider hitting the PWR zone briefly a big deal.

    You take advantage of having an engine. The hybrid system figures out how to achieve the MPG from that. It was true for the previous 3 models and is for the plug-in as well.
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    Thanks Giora
    Nice "mileage"
    We have ours since Jan 10 and have 11.2 K
    We have only 17.0 km/l although it is improving. This is calculated and not the display which is about 5-8% better.
    Our driving conditions are not good for mileage although I am saving 40% over previous car (Nissan Almera 1.8 L Auto).
    I was glad to read that the resale value is high and selling easy.

    We (3 drivers) all enjoy the car.
     
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  7. john1701a

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    More PHV adventures...


    Starting fully charged, this is the result of a round-trip to see my brother (Mon. 8/16/2010):
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    I took the back route both to and from work, starting with a full charge (Tues. 8/17/2010):
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    For larger versions and links to others, go to this webpage.
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  8. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    [​IMG]

    You can see that the floor is about 1-2 inches higher than the normal car. The little tab you see sticking out from under the carpet is the tab to lift up the cover for the tonneau cover storage bin.
     

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  9. Dolce_Vita

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    Thanks :) so is there still an under floor storage area? And a spare wheel?
     
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    Thanks, interesting. The trips are around 50 miles and you got around 75 MPG.
     
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    ^^ works out to be about 54 mpg in CS mode
     
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    Nope. The bin and spare are gone. You get a tyre repair kit. The small bin is only to store the tonneau cover. (it's basically a custom fit... the other thing I can think of that'll fit in there is a foldable umbrella)
     
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    You do still get a very small bin to the right side for storing the flat repair kit (basically a "Slime" pack) and a sticker to put on the tire warning the techs that it's full of "crap".
     
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  14. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    Thanks! Didn't see the bin on the test drive.
     
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    More photos and larger versions are available on album page 156
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  16. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    Btw, john, mkash's page on your owner's page section is broken. I don't know if he has a new website address or if he just took down his old one when the domain expired.
     
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    Hi John,
    By the size of the lead, I take it the J1772 plug Toyota supplied you with is only 120 volt. Are all 5 pins functional? Are there any markings on it indicating if it's U.L. approved? Any 240 volt chargers around your area? ... and if so, did you get to see how much faster it'd recharge on higher current?
    Thanks
     
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  18. HTMLSpinnr

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    Hill, The plug is universal between 120V and 240V.

    I remember looking into the plug and seeing the pins as follows:

    E (Ground)
    L1 (Line 1)
    L2/N (Line 2/Neutral - depending on 240V or 120V)
    CS (I think - Charge sense, detects if the plug is there, car won't start if it is)
    CF (Charge fault or feedback I believe)

    CS might have been CP. Either way, two leads were signaling, one was ground, and two were A/C conductors.

    Follows [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAE_J1772]SAE J1772 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    The brick we received was indeed 120V only - for 240v, it'd be a different adapter, but same car-side plug.

    The 120V cord was a good 25ft long - quite usable in many situations.
     
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  19. hill

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    Yea I know ... that's why I didn't ask about the plug ... rather the lead ... the wire ... the cable ... the black thingie that comes after the plug.
    ;)
     
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  20. talonts

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    I wish the cable were a good 5 ft longer. I'm parking the PHV on the left side of the driveway, my wife's 04 on the right, and there is no accessible plug on the left wall. Stretching from the right wall means I have to park the PHV with the bumper less than a foot from the garage door.

    I suppose I could plug it into an extension cord, but they asked that I not do that...even though I have a welder extension cord that could power the whole house, let alone a tiny 1kW charger.

    ...so it gets parked real close to the door.

    Odds are the charger is universal, and the 1ft lead is swapped as necessary. At least, that's the way I'd do it if offering "two different" chargers.
     
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