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Prius $1095 more than a Ford Fiesta

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  1. Greysquirrel34

    Greysquirrel34 New Member

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    Stopped into the local Ford dealership to-day and they have a Fiesta price at $20165,has all the standard equipment plus auto transmission and leather seats, the local Toyota dealer has a number of Prius ll priced a $21250. Why anyone would buy the Fiesta over a Prius is beyond me, the Fiesta has no room in the back seat, not much cargo space but the passenger compartment is roomy and the seats are nice but overall it does not compare to even a stock ll and for the price I would expect more. I know you can get one for 17k but it is nothing in it, standard tranny wind up windows, no cd player just a basic car and when you add on all the things that are standard on the ll the price will be over the price of the ll.
    My wife has priced most of the cars in the Prius ll and lll range and though some of them she liked they all only got less than 30 miles per gallon so she is still sold on the Prius I just wish she would get of the pot before her 97 Rav 4 with 165k on it need some major repairs as it is now she could sell it with no problem but if she waits she will be SOL.
    But she need someone besides me to tell her that besides me, what do I know I'm just her husband.
    I give up she just told me she wants to wait till Feb. when the Ford Focus hatchback comes out, glad she didn't wait this long to find out who she wanted to marry.:D
     
  2. eliteconcept

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    i'd say if your looking to make the jump between now and the next 6 months...jump now. There are some great deals to be had out there right now. This week I jumped from a 2008 Honda Civic LX coupe into a Prius my payment changed by $5 per month and my insurance actually went down by $1 per month...can't beat that.

    In Feb there might be some deals to be had but you'll be trying to haggle on 2011's that they will have plenty of time to move..and who really wants to be car shopping in Feb anyways? :)

    Its a good time and gas consumption on all cars decreases in the winter...do you really want to drive a rav4 getting maybe 22mpg in the winter when you could be racking up the savings getting 35-40mpg in the winter?
     
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    I would like to add, the fact that Ford pays the workers in mexico $2.25 an hour to build the Fiesta. I'm sure in Japan they are paid many time more then that to build the Prius. Something to think about. When the owners get their millions, and they pay less than 5 grand a year to their workers, i will take my money elsewhere. It's a shame.
     
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    That figure sounds wrong, I think they average around $4/hr in Ford Mexico. Unfortunately these are good and desired jobs despite the pay relative to the US and Japan. Fiesta is also produced in Thailand. I don't want to see higher unemployment in mexico or thailand. Don't attempt to harm the workers because you think they don't earn enough.

    The fiesta and prius are different animals, the focus is different still. No simpathy for wife's decision process. Imagine if she wanted an hybrid escalade.
     
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    Mexican Ford Fiesta Workers Get $2.25 an Hour | The Truth About Cars

    I have read it in a few other places. And even if they get a couple of years in and top out at 5$ an hour i still think it's wrong. And i'm not trying to harm workers, but to boycot companies that have ceo's that make thousands of times more than they pay their employees per hour.
     
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    $2.25 an hour must be a lot if Mexico's national minimum wage is $5 a day :cool:

    Oh, name one CEO that earns as much as their employees. Might as well boycott them all.
     
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    I didn't say they need to make as much as their employees. But when they move jobs that paid $60 an hour(total benfits and pay) to $5 an hour. And their ceo pay goes up from 20 million a year to 30 million a year don't we have to do a little soul searching? Don't we as humans have to consider things like this?

    Isn't there a bread factory in Ca where the ceo makes the same as the workers? I think everyone made 70k a year there including the owner. And they could compete in the marketplace.

    What I'm trying to say is how can a person make $20,000 and hour then say well we can't pay our employees $20 an hour anymore, lets pay them $3 an hour in another country. Then they get to raise their $20,000 an hour pay to $25,000 an hour. I can sum this up in three letters Wth!! I've heard these ceo's talk about thier belief in god and things like that. I truly hope i don't end up in the after life with these greedy selfish people.

    Just because people are poor doesn't mean we should take advantage of them. Look at whats happening in China, sure they loved their 5$ a day jobs, look at how poluted the country is now. What did we save with thier cheap labor? Not our jobs and pay.

    I know there not going to move jobs to mexico and pay them good. But why not 7$ an hour? That way there life gets better in mexico and in kinda makes up for the american that lost his or her 50$ an hour job. Some of the japanese companies move job to america, not mexico so it's possable to pay a fair wage and still make very good profit.

    couldn't the owners of walmart say we have billions and billions, lets get more of the profits back to the employees. They still could make good money and start paying the workers $10 a hour to start not $7.25-they lowest they can by fedral law.

    Just and idea.

    But i am interest in driving the Fiesta and even more the Chevy Cruise, to see what thier about. Finally it's good to see non hybrid cars that can get 40 mpg.
     
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    I compared the Fiesta and the Prius, and really like what the Fiesta had to offer. For less then the base Prius II the Fiesta comes with almost all the amenities included with the much more expensive Prius V. The Fiesta also has Ford Sync which is great piece of voice controlled tech. With the Fiesta you get high end features, sportier ride and good gas mileage all in a compact conventional package.

    We went with the Prius IV instead, but if the Fiesta had an Ecoboost engine we probably would have gone with the Ford.

    Oh and I would be much happier if these vehicles were built in the states, but you cannot have a reasonable discussion about fair wages without factoring in cost of living. But then you would have to get into standard of living, health and environmental factors, retirement options, etc. So let's talk cars, no?
     
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    I'll take the $1000 gas savings every year, the 2 year no maintenance, the 4 year comprehensive warranty over a Ford Fiesta anyday. I don't care about features I don't need. The Prius has everything I want.

    Who cares whether a car is sportier? The Prius looks pretty sporty to me. I don't care about "oomph"....I put all that savings into a 401k.

    The Sync system is a joke, I got my UMPC installed on my Prius...I can give it voice commands too and it works better than the sync. The UMPC has 4g enabled...so it can stream pandora and slacker. Does your sync system have 4g (or even 3g)? no.
     
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    But then you have to drive a car called a fiesta... and its a ford so say goodbye to your resale value.... and the fuel economy after the 1st year..
     
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    Tell me more about this 4 year comprehensive warranty... You talking the bumper-to-bumper warranty? I thought it was only 3 years/36K miles...
     
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    Thanks for your opinions, but the OP's comparison was a fully loaded Fiesta to a base Prius II. He was asking why you would choose the Fiesta and I gave some reasons that a person might consider. This was a feature comparison and you added nothing to the discussion.

    Also if you read you will see that I don't have the Sync. I bought a Prius IV.

    Fanboy much?
     
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    What happens to the fuel economy after the first year?
     
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    How did you calculate $1000 over the Fiesta? I get $370 for the average driver at $3 a gallon.
     
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    I got a 2 year preventative maintenance and a 7 year comprehensive warranty (this I had to buy)...not 4 year.
     
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    Well, $1000 was exaggerated...more like $700 in savings.

    My previous car had to be fueled 3 times a month at around $36 each fuel up...that was over $700.

    With the Prius, I get AT LEAST 650miles per tank. So I ONLY FUEL ONCE a month and it costs me about $30...which works to be less than $400 per year.
     
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    This discussion was Fiesta vs Prius and you quote the savings on some mystery car that gets far worse fuel economy then the Fiesta? Your savings over the Fiesta would only be about $240 a year.

    Being disingenuous doesn't help the discussion.
     
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    That is rather sad that new workers get such low wages if its true. I couldn't pull up any reputable news source. The article seems full of class warfare though. Their are not 4500 new workers for the fiesta in mexico. There are about 2000 fiesta workers in mexico and many of them hired back from layoff. It is bad news for car plants in mexco if the wages have dropped so much though, since they used to attract very good workers with higher relative wages.

    No car of this class built in america has made money. Ford is trying to do it with cheaper labor costs, higher quality parts, and a premium price. I'm not sure how successful they will be. The platform twin mazda 2 is attempting to do it on the cheap with good handling. The focus is the smallest car that US makers seem to be able to be profitable on and it will be built in the us. If you choose the strategy of not buying from a car company that has low wage employees you can not buy from any Japanese, Korean, or American car company. They all have some employee's making less than $2/hr.
     
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    Yep, that's what I have as well, the 4 year threw me...
     
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    There is a lot more technology in the base Prius than in the most
    decorated Fiesta with every possible option.

    I'll take 50 MPG than 30 MPG any day for $1095.00 more.

    alfon