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Did I damage my axles?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by mwok86, Aug 17, 2010.

  1. mwok86

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    The Prius is only 5 months old with 2.2K miles with stock Yokohama tires. I plan to take it to the dealership over the weekend...I'm sure they will add their "dealership tax" to the base Yokohama prices. However, I rather pay more and not have them damage any sensors or anything...this is my main concern with tire shops.

    I can defined say that there is some slight "performance/mpg" issues at the moment. It looks like the plugged tired isn't "accelerating well" like before and the plug itself is causing noises and poor friction.

    The thing is, if I'm going to replace a tire, I might as well go with top of the line high performance tires (the Yokohama is probably crap) and replace all 4. What are good all season tires? How much would replacing all 4 run about?

    If someone can recommend a really good high mpg tire that can WITHSTAND poorly maintained roads, I can inquire my dealership about the prices.
     
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    If you have the normal Yokohama price in hand when you go to the dealer, that could help you get a better price if his Toyota tax is outrageous. It's fortunate that Prius tires are reasonably price to start with.
     
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    I never heard of Yokohama before, isn't better to go with Good Year, Michelin, Yamaha?
     
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    Yokohama is a very good brand, no worries. It's also more important that your new tire be the same as the other three than what brand it is.
     
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    If you drove on a flat tire for a mile, even at low speed, it is probably damaged. You can't always tell by looking at the outside of the tire if it is damaged or not.

    I would recommend taking the car to a reputable tire store or a Toyota dealer and have the tire dismounted and checked. You should also have them look under the car, they can check to make sure the car was not damaged by placing the jack in the wrong place.

    If you need to replace the tire it is best to use one that is the same as the other three.
     
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    As for jacking by the axle, I frequently use the shock mount or similar solid point on the rear axle to jack from - this quickly raises the tire w/o raising the car, and the amount of effort is far less.
     
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    I checked the underneath of the car, it has a solid "square" area beside each wheel...which is about the area the mechanic placed the jack so it should be ok.

    One thing I'm still worried about is that there is noise in the back (it's sort of a clank)...it happens randomly....I think it might be the tire or the actual wheel disc. Something is "clanking" when rotating. Hopefully, it's the tire which I will replace this weekend. I hope the wheel disc did not get deformed because it was making contact with the road surface.

    What should I tell the dealership service center? Should I tell them that a stone or something hit the underneath rear side of the car and after that it started clanking (and also the fact it took out the tire)?
     
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    If it were me I'd just tell them exactly what happened.

    Be sure to check with your insurance company this kind of damage may be covered.
     
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    I bought every warranty at the dealership....if a road debris hit the underneath of my car, is it still my fault? I drive extremely slowly and cautiously but the road is just so incredibly awful.

    I have no problem paying for a new tire (in fact, I think it's my responsibility because I plugged it) BUT I do have a problem with paying for any parts for a car that has less than 2.5k miles.
     
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    I understand what you are saying but it is not really a question of rather it's your fault or not, it's a question of rather the warranty covers it or not. In the case of a road hazard I would really be surprised if it did, but it doesn't hurt to ask. I think it would be more likely that your insurance would cover it.

    In the case of the tire they should have given you a little booklet from the tire manufacturer, tire warranties are usually not worth much but ask about that also. If you have to buy a tire, which you probably will, you can find the exact one you need from this site:
    Tire Rack - Your performance experts for tires and wheels
    But it will take a few days, they will ship to a tire store near you for installation usually at about half the price a car dealer charges for a tire.
     
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    I rather let the dealership change the tires even if it costs more. I'm uncomfortable with "mechanic shops" changing it because they might not do it properly (speaking from experience).

    So I have to pay for parts (not the tire) that was damaged by poorly maintained roads (it's extremely bad)? Maybe I should also buy a big fat SUV and then drive extremely fast and tailgate other people and not care about finances at all.
     
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    I would tell the dealership exactly what occurred, and have them lift the car up to look underneath. You may have caused some significant damage to more than just your tire.

    Regarding the warranty policies that you purchased, I would not think that any of them would cover road hazards. However, your Auto Insurance Policy may, and if so, thay may be able to cover the entire cost associated with this, minus your deductible.

    Also, you mention the horrendous conditions of the road. Around here, where road construction season, or pothole season somes around, some damage is covered by the city of Chicago, or the State of Illinois, if they are the ones causing the road hazards, either by neglect, or current work. If this applies to you, it may be worth your time to call the (City/State/county) who maintains that section of road, and see what if anything they could recommend. Could you take pictures of the road conditions?

    As for the tires, I agree with the others here. Yokohama tires are as highly regarded today as any other mainstream tire brand. I would suggest that you only replace the one that was damaged, instead of all 4. Overall the tires that were shipped with your car were selected for their MPG capabilities, and handling. Not saying you cannot get better, that's always an option, but may be unnecessary.
     
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    The road was initially bad but drivable. Then all of sudden, utility companies start digging up everywhere on the road and then NEVER fixed it....they just left it there with massive holes and big steel plates. Pieces of the road is coming off and flying into rear vehicles. I got hit several times in the windshield by small pieces (did not crack). The whole road is over 10 miles long and it is extremly undrivable conditions. I tried 3 alternate routes.....ALL of them are equally bad. The beltway route is horrible because there is a MASSIVE crater (can't avoid) and you're hitting it at over 50mph (can't slow down because of rear cars).

    I balanced the PSI but I'm hearing creaking/crunching/clanking noises from the wheel assembly. This POS road must have damaged the underneath components.

    At this point, I feel like trading my Prius and buying a big fat gas guzzilion SUV so I can be as cool as the other people.
     
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    If your roads are that bad, an SUV might be a better option for you.

    Tom
     
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    I would think that the utility companies would be responsible for the damage to your vehicle, and all the costs related to it. Whether you choose to keep your car, or go to the other extreme with the SUV, you will probably want to consider asking them to make you good on the damage that they seem to have caused your vehicle.
     
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    What's wrong with putting the spare on? Do people not know how to change a tire?
     
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    Warranty's not going to cover damage caused by things you run over or hit. Thats what insurance is for. You probably have a claim to get the city to cover any damage...but good luck getting them to do it.

    I think your "acceleration issues" are in your head because you're hyper-sensitive about every little thing about the car since this happened. The plug in the tire isn't going to create anything you can feel from the cockpit.

    I'm sure the car is fine, cars are tough. Get the tire replaced and stop worrying about it.

    Not a thing. However you've paid for roadside assistance with the vehicle...why go to the effort when someone else can do it?