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Man accidentally shoots himself in testicles

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  1. Trebuchet

    Trebuchet Senior Member

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    Well to go shopping you have to leave your primary residence. Depending on the neighborhood you live in being able to defend yourself may not be a bad idea. Parking lots are notorious areas for car jacking's, robberies and assaults. We had a fellow murdered in the main mall of out fair city this past Christmas. Bad things can happen anywhere anytime IMO if you don't feel it necessary to defend yourself, more power to you, but don't infringe my Constitutional Rights or my ability to defend myself.
     
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    Doesn't a gun have to be cocked before a slight disturbance will set it off? Who in his right mind sticks a loaded and cocked pistol in his pants?
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    Ah, now we are turning the discussion to people in their right minds?

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    Rae Vynn Artist In Residence

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    Darwin's Law, in action! :thumb:
     
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    Exactly!. If all those people killed in England had been carrying they would be alive today. What a travesty that England prohibits carrying handguns. No wonder they have so many more murders than we have in the U.S.
     
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    Chuck. Former Honda Enzyte Driver

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    I'm also picturing a dude like this that has a urge to go to the Men's Room and before he gets there, the gun goes off. :eek:
     
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    There's no way that claim can be verifiable. You put a few armed citizens in the same room with an armed lunatic and a bunch of unarmed civilians, the only guarantee you have is that a bunch of people are going to die. Heck, I would even give good odds that one of the citizens would miss the lunatic and hit an innocent by accident.

    having everyone carry a gun is not the solution.

    And BTW... where do you get your stats on murder rates?

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate]List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    The use has a murder rate of approximately 5.4 for every 100,000 people. England is 1.37.
     
  8. Rae Vynn

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    Someone forgot their [sarcasm] ... [/sarcasm] tags...
     
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    Nope only one had to be carrying but that aside your point is?
     
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    Guns don't kill people: bullets do. I say, let the gun supporters have all the guns they want. Just make bullets illegal!
     
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    blueumbrella Member of Prius Regeneration

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    Who said anything about your Constitutional rights or your ability to defend yourself?

    I continue to believe that no one should carry a firearm, loaded or not, in a store. Like I said previously, this is not a question of if you can, which we all know is legal, but why people feel they need to be in a constant state of ready to shoot someone. I find that scary.
     
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    England achieved a low murder rate first, then imposed the gun control that so many people credit for that murder rate.

    The U.S. prefers to impose gun controls when murder rates are rising, then use the continued rise as proof that more controls are needed. This is how a number of our cities achieved bans or near-bans, yet still had murder rates continue to climb well above the national average.

    Why so high? Back when I was active in this debate, pre-Dunblane, England's murder rate was significantly below 1 per 100k. Since the Dunblane handgun ban, their murder rate has gone up, while ours has gone down.
     
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    Why so high? Because people, in general, aren't rational. It doesn't take a gun to kill someone - all it takes is an irrational bastard wanting to settle a grudge.
     
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    People will kill each other even without guns. But guns make it a lot easier to do. You can do it from much farther away than if you relied on a knife, and a gun increases your chances of killing the wrong person if you miss your intended target. It's also a lot easier to kill someone by accident with a gun than with a knife or a hammer. When was the last time you heard of a 5-year-old getting hold of a kitchen knife and accidentally killing his brother?

    I like the suggestion made by someone in another thread, that only those arms available at the time the Constitution was written should be permitted.
     
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    5-year-olds who accidentally kill their brother usually do it with matches or a lighter.
    This could just as easily by applied to the First Amendment.
     
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    Followup story in the Seattle Times.

    "no crime was committed." Huh? I thought he was a good twenty miles inside the no discharge zone.

    Sweatpants, and apparently no holster, and apparently not trained to keep his finger away from the trigger. He needs sturdier pants with a good holster, and not one of those ancient exposed-trigger holsters that I saw surprisingly recently on a Seattle police officer at a very crowded festival.
     
  17. blueumbrella

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    Apparently, becaused he had a concealed weapons permit, they are not going to charge him. I believe the decision also took into account the consequence the weapon had already imposed. Thankfully, no one else suffered as a result of his stupidity.
     
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    You mean only allow people to speak words which were used at that time??? Or require them to speak with a historical accent???
     
  20. fuzzy1

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    It would also protect paper mechanically printed with hand-set type on hand-powered presses too.

    But not any of this new high-capacity electronic stuff that allows just about anybody to very rapidly spread extremely high volumes of pornography, sedition, false news, fear, unrest, libel, fraud, etc.