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CD Track Identifying

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Audio and Electronics' started by rpeek2, Mar 24, 2010.

  1. rpeek2

    rpeek2 Dry Ice Juggler

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    My audio is incorporated into the nav system of my GenIII P-IV. When playing commercial CDs I'm not getting CD title display on the "select track" screen or the "CD" screen, just empty track fields. I was reading a post from 5 years ago stating, in effect, even commercial CDs have to be reburned and labling text added. What !! Mp3s and WMAs display a track # at least when selected.

    :confused:Is any one else seeing blank title fields?

    :confused:Is this an electronic problem of a user problem?
     
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    Re: CD Track Identifing

    When I play a store bought music CD, no track info is available (I believe it says track1, track2, etc. Pretty annoying.

    In my previous car BMW), newer CDs would display track info, although most older CDs didn't.
     
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    Re: CD Track Identifing

    Most of my store bought CD's display track titles, CD titles, musician, etc. The only ones that do not are either self-made copies or cheaper CD's that do not have the information available
    that is needed to display.
     
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    Re: CD Track Identifing

    Yes! Empty track fields on my commercial CD's
    I have the nav/phone/ipod...model#E7022
    went to my local dealer and we went to another Gen 3 with same model # and exactly the same problem. The track info works on all my other features.. xm and Ipod.
    Any fixes out there??
     
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    Re: CD Track Identifing

    CD-Text is an optional metadata field on the CD. Many commercial CDs do not include this data, while others may.

    There is no problem with the car, the specific cd just simply doesn't contain the data.
     
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    Re: CD Track Identifing

    Hi there, this is how it works. A normal CD contains no information about CD titles, Track and so on, but every CD contains a unique Identifier - (a number). When you are at home and play a CD on your computer, you normally will se this information – because your computer looks up the Identifier on the disk, and then contacts a CDDB (Compact Disk Data Base) on the Internet – and uses the Identifier to look up all relevant information about the CD, and displays it to you. In your Prius Music system, you will not be able to look up something on the Internet, but the Prius Nav/Music system contains a Gracenote CDDB. (The European models for shore, the US model?) If you play a CD that is older than the CDDB – tracks and titles are displayed, but when you try to play a brand new CD – the CDDB contains no information about the Identifier. Therefore it displays only Track1, Track2 and so on.
     
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    Re: CD Track Identifing

    Really not how it works. As said above CDs can store the information as special metadata that the car can read. Some burning programs will let you edit this text for individual tracks.
     
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    Re: CD Track Identifing


    My brand new Gen III IV has the same problem -- no data available for CDs. Very annoying.

    I brought the car in for evaluation today and the dealer said that maybe 2 CDs out of 15 CD contain the requisite technology to display text -- so far I'm batting 0 out of 15. My CDs were all purchased at standard retail outlets and I have had no trouble displaying text on other devices -- e.g., iPod.

    Surely there has to be a software fix out there -- text readout is not exactly Star Wars technology. Toyota needs to fix this and also arrange a fix for the iPod to be controlled by the car's audio system. Other than that -- I love this car.
     
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    Of the three CD's that I currently have in my Nav, three show track titles, album name and singer/group and one does not. It all depends if the data information was burned in to the CD or not. It is not an issue with the Nav.
     
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    The CD has to support CD Text. Typically CDs from Sony's music labels (Columbia, Arista, Epic, etc) support CD Text, but anyone can.
     
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    Yes, unfortunately, when the CD standard was being created, nobody was forward-thinking enough to think we would have devices that would want to display this info; they thought of it as a new kind of cassette tape or record. At that time (80s), PC's hadn't even become all that common yet, so that's one reason.

    Those CDs that do have CD-Text support, it is "hacked in," and not part of the official standard.

    But, in summary, in order for the CD text to show, at least one of the following must be true:
    1. The CD must be older than the existing CDDB database built into the car's system,
    2. The CD must have CD-Text on it (not many store-bought CDs do this yet), or
    3. You must burn a copy of the CD, and add the CD-Text yourself.
     
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