Toyota drivers suing in US for a full refund

oh ffs.. only in America!

 

All cars are potentially unsafe. Go live in a cave.

 

:doh:

 

sue a company for depreciation?? good luck

 

If they win can you imagine the precedent it would set? WOW for this to even go to court I be amazed!

 

Tom if you keep doing that every time someone acts stupid you going to have one long lasting headache!

 

I already have one, but thanks for pointing out the cause. Maybe drinking would help.

Tom

 

ATAC is the racketeering party here. Legal extortion.

I suspect friendly briefs will come in from a lot of automakers.

 

I feel sorry for Toyota.

Not because I think these lawsuits have much of a chance, if any chance at all, but just because their existence will result in more negative headlines and more negative statements put in the public psyche.

I, like many of us, have watched this all develop and unfold over the past few months. I never imagined it could get this bad for Toyota.

To me the difference being that Toyota just seems unable to get themselves to a point where they are allowed to return to business. Truth is other automakers are often involved in recalls of various degrees of seriousness but usually the recall happens, the company takes a momentary hit of negative publicity, the problem is addressed and the company get's to primarily return to building and selling automobiles.

With Toyota the publicity has been unrelentening and constantly negative. Followed with unceasing accusation of an unprovable. The accusation is that a problem exists in the electronics or software of the vehicles, although NOBODY, not even a legitimate accuser has been able to pinpoint or illuminate where or what that "flaw" is suppose to be.

So I don't know, I just feel sorry for Toyota at this point. I've said for months now, that I think eventually everything will die down and Toyota can get back to selling cars. I guess I STILL think that will happen, but I'm actually amazed at the level of negative exposure Toyota is still facing.

Toyota, a company that has had decades of sterling reputation for quality is now become the brunt of jokes and the focal point of adversarial lawsuits. I would of never imagined it possible. Where once I thought repair of image would be a matter of weeks or months, I now think recovery from these episodes likely to take months or years.

Ford eventually emerged from the negative publicity of The Pinto, and I think Toyota can emerge from the "accusations" of faulty software or electronics...but it's going to take some time, and sterling or unscathed will never be adjectives you can use in description of Toyota's reputation again...ever.

That I can only describe as sad.

 

LOL - have one on me!

 

Just when you thought things couldn't get any more ridiculous...

 

Good observation that I share with you. After watching this clip it makes me wonder when will this end?
Autos.CTV.ca : Toyota trouble
Autos.CTV.ca : Toyota trouble : Canada AM: Jeremy Cato, Globe and Mail


An automotive journalist reveals what happened when he took a Toyota Prius on a test drive after all the bad press the vehicle has received lately.

 

i personally think its all CRAP

we are misled over the breath and depth of the negative publicity generated by an out of touch media circus we call "news."

fact of the matter; nearly 100 million very satisfied Toyota owners

fact of the matter; tens of millions of Toyota "families" (multiple Toyotas purchased and currently owned)

fact of the matter; Toyota, despite news to the contrary, still makes a very good product

fact of the matter; just like the fact that Paris fell on her nice person at some awards show not making a single teeny weeny impression on my life (despite the HUGE media coverage on it) this issue will not affect my next auto purchase.

 

I think a most of the negative publicity is crap. But unfortunately it's existence is not crap.

It's Toyota's entrenched and interwoven existence in the lives of many people that made me think a few months ago that this would all blow over. ....I still think eventually it will...

But real tangible damage has been done that will take much longer to reverse.

You and I, and even the majority of Prius enthusiasts of Prius Chat might not be influenced by this negative publicity....but a lot of people will be.

Outside of Hybrids, the truth is there is a lot of parrity and duplication in products offered between automakers. Not much difference between a Camry, or Accord, or Sonata...Malibu...

For a lot of people when it comes time to purchase just the shadow of a doubt about an automaker can make a difference. Like I said I feel sorry for Toyota, but I can't deny that despite my personal feelings or opinions about recent events, I'm afraid a lot of people WILL be influenced.

Toyota used to be able to sell cars based on a history of decades of sterling quality. They used to be able to sell cars based on a history of retention of a higher resale value than competitors.

Maybe most of that can be regained with time. But at least in the short term that's not the case.

Sad.

 

I would think that drinking would temporarily make you forget that you had a headache, but I sure wouldn't want to feel what the hang-over headache feels like when combined with the existing one....

 

Makes me wish I didn't give up alcohol.

 

It's crap, bull dung, rabbit pellets, bird squeeze, or any other type of excrement you can think of. These people are pissed that resale value has dropped drammatically, guess what? Their actions just drove it into a tialspin.