CNET - Nissan Leaf

Damn, I want one!!! That car is the bee's knees. The cat's meow.

 

Thanks for posting that
I am so looking forward to the Leaf coming out!

 

Very cool. Maybe I will get one after my Prius wears out.

 

I was wondering the same thing. Why such a small solar panel? will it amount to anything? If the karma fisker which has a full roof solar panel and can only pull in 4 miles over 7 full days of sunshine. I guess it's to combat parasitic battery drain.

If Nissan can trickle charge the battery, why couldn't toyota do the same for the prius?

 

We really have no idea what the price will be except that it's supposed to be in the range of a family sedan. Unlike GM, which likes to make false claims and then change them later, Nissan has not mentioned a price.

The optional solar panel on the Prius only produces enough energy to run a tiny fan. A C-cell battery could do that. I suspect that the solar panel on the Leaf is just for show, so they can say they have one. It's size was probably determined by styling rather than function.

Solar panels on cars are for publicity, and that only works because the populace is, by and large, dumber than a box of rocks. They refused to learn science or math in school because "I'm never going to need that stuff," and so now they are incapable of understanding anything more complicated than the ON button on their TV set.

 

Why didn't cnet drive the car? no feed back was given about the powertrain,the interior or open the trunk or hood. maybe they weren't allowed to....

 

It's CNET, not Car&Driver.
I am sure when Nissan is ready to have car reviewers take it for a spin they will give a car magazine first crack at it.
As for the solar panel, I would be shocked if it was for anything more than show (as mentioned by others).

 

Cnet has reviewed many cars including the tesla roadster and 2010 prius.

 

That might make sense: trickle charge the 12-v battery.

 

Best of all? The official Nissan Leaf wait list ... you'll be able to sign up in less than a month now (provided you live in one of the half dozen or so states they'll first be selling them in) if you want to be one of the first on your block to have one. Better get your camping gear to get a good spot in line!



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Why go through all the effort and expense just to trickle charge the 12-v battery? is it because the car will always be on, the computer anyway(so you can remotely tell it to charge)? That makes sense, but it doesn't at the same time. If the Leaf is outside under open sky, it's probably not at a charging station (what gas station doesn't have a canopy?) or if it's at home it will probably be in a garage when it's ready to charge. it could use a little power from the cord itself so the solar panels are still redundant (no matter if it's outside, if it has a cord attached power could come through that).

The comp could stay on if it detects a cord attached or shut off after a certain amount of time of inactivity. Is the HVAC remote aswell?

 

Washington is one of the states, but the guy on the phone was not entirely certain whether it would be limited to the coast region, where they are installing charging stations, or whether the entire state would be eligible. So I don't yet know if I'll be able to get one.

My feeling is that the solar panel serves no real purpose, other than to shout "electric!" But maybe they'll have a little tiny exhaust fan like the solar Prius.

You cannot count on it to trickle charge the 12-v battery, because chances are it will seldom be parked in the sun long enough to matter. During an afternoon, you don't need it, and for long-term storage I always park under cover (garage, or covered parking at the airport, to protect from hail or keep snow off). But the exhaust fan is only needed when the car is in direct sunlight, so that makes sense. But I have not heard of a fan in the Nissan, so I think it's just for show.

Just something to have to explain to people "No, it really doesn't do anything." But that's a minor drawback in an otherwise fabulous car.

 

the solar panel will do virtually nothing, a standard 39" x 65" panel puts out about 200-220 watts, at peak power, from around 11AM-Noon, if facing directly due south, and at the proper angle. It also costs about $600-700, and puts out about 30-40VDC. no the panel is just for show, or to run a small fan the same way Toyota is doing in the 2010 Prius. Too bad they won't be selling them in Mass, as I already signed up on their website... They did bring it here on their 26 city tour though, and did sign a deal with the state of Mass...

 

I also agree that the solar panel is probably not very useful. I have a friend with a converted EV covered in solar panels, but the panels only charge the batteries enough that over the course of a really sunny day, might add an additional 1 mile of charge.

However, if the car were parked outside for a long period, it would be enough to keep the battery from running itself flat, which could damage the battery. This happens on Prius batteries fairly often when people don't drive them for a year or so.

 

If I was going to leave my Prius unused for a year, I'd be parking it in a garage, not out in the sun, rain, snow, and hail. Thus, the PVs would be useless. It would make a lot more sense to put the 12-v on a trickle charge, and run the ICE 2 or 3 times during the year to keep the traction battery charged, if necessary.