I want a refund ...

Those lazy workers didn't want to work 10 hours per day 6 days a week and then wanted to be paid for not working. Some even had the nerve to complain about low pay and poor or unsafe working conditions.

Yes, there are slacking union employees. There are also plenty of slacking non-union employees.

 

There are lemon laws

For those who bought within the period, and are unhappy, I encourage you to return your cars to toyota.

I will be speaking with my states atourney general next week on other matters. If toyota does not make a public statement by then, I will ask him to extend our lemon laws for toyota. I do not know what the outcome will be, but I don't have much tolerance for statements that there is no problem, but we fixed the problem. I do not like leaks from the media that a recall will happen, then official statements that toyota is only considering it. There is no reason for a buyer in my state to have bought an unsafe car, that the corporation knew was unsafe, and that corporation will not at least promise a fix for the problem.

 

I agree you, vahrn, but brakes are something I feel better about when they work at "five 9's" level. In this case, as Spoils pointed out, it's more about "brake feel" than actual operation. In any case, it's about what I consider the key piece of safety equipment in a vehicle. As such, I would've expected Toyota to be a bit more proactive about addressing the issue. I don't mind jumping in a car in driving if I'm told "it can get squirmy in a corner" or "it's a bit rough on bumps"; but, I draw the line at "it doesn't feel like it's stopping but it is."

 

It must be tough to be a Toyota-fanatic these days...
Hang tight, people.
"A true fan never leaves."

However, I am not with you.
I own a Toyota Prius. It does not own me.

 

Just read an Associated Press release that say that there is a total of 100 complaints in the US and Japan combined so the percentage of cars involved is small, unless of course your car is one of them then it's one to many.
Just read another post saying there are 200 complaints, still a small percentage of total cars sold.

 

I had a thought about the brake "issue", even though Toyota has been implementing a change in the new production since early January, and they admited it, to get the TSB written, come up with the proceedures, manufacture any parts that might be required (you can't assume it is only software, we don't know yet), and to get it out to their US dealers, probably does take longer than a month, Toyota is a large company, it takes some time, and since they deemed not to be a "life or death" issue, it was probably moving along at their normal rate for handling TSBs/Updates. I don't think they thought it would blow up this way on them, otherwise they certainly would have pushed it out as fast as possible. They are certainly not going to refund anyones money for a minor TSB, they'll probably throw in a free oil change, if you press it.

Mitch

 

I hope not. I am counting on my car stopping each and every time I use it, any experience with PCs will tell you that upgrades can force reboots NOW. Some do not go well and 'brick' the device', files get corrupted, power gets turned off, etc.

I sincerely hope this is always a dealer process.

 

OMG! My brakes failed and look what happened! Or maybe- my brakes worked great and prevented what could have been a really bad accident because some twit decided to pull out in front of me.

To quote a previous poster (on another thread) the best way to get the gas mileage from your prius is to drive as if you have no brakes. I've tried really hard to adopt that mantra, and it is improving my mpg. It's also changed the way I drive. I do not zip down the road at full bore trying to get to the stop light first. I let everyone else do that, while I just coast along and rack up the mpg.

All in all whether it's the brakes, gas pedal, tires, or whatever the issue may be, just use common sense. Take a breath, assess the situation and calmly, rationally, seek a solution.

To the original poster- has your pc ever crashed? your dishwasher spew yucky white filmy stuff on your dishes? your water pressure gone down on a hot day when everyone's watering their yards? your kid ever back talk you in public? These are not refund situations, they're fixable solutions. We deal with them everyday.

 

it's amazing how posters repeat what other posters post...over and over again.

 

Some people call it "composting"

 

Why does that sound like some sort of fetish

 

like 2 girls one cup?

 

The Kermit the Frog version was pretty great too.

 

while I suspect the original post is just a troll, there is a doctrine of law in which one party to an arm's-length deal fails to disclose a known safety problem with the automobile it can deemed to be fraud, which permits rescission of the deal (i.e., a refund). You would have to be able to show that Toyota knew of the problem, the problem was "material" (significant) information a reasonable purchaser would want to know concerning safety, and Toyota failed to disclose it. Falk v. General Motors Corporation, 496 F.Supp.2d 1088 (N.D. Cal. 2007). My guess is that more recent purchasers may be able to show this, as the braking problem was probably known internally for some time.

 

AMEN !:yo: