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3G Issues (CD, washer nozzles, creaks)

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by Tideland Prius, Oct 20, 2009.

  1. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    Okie dokie. So I've had my Prius for a month and a half now and i've got some issues to bring up and see if anyone can help me out



    1. CD player skipping: It's been skipping since I bought it. However, I noticed it will do so with MP3 CDs and not with store-bought CDs. I don't have any store-bought CDs to play in the CD player long enough to verify it (I had my friend bring one on the road trip but then again, my MP3 CDs worked for most of the trip too). Sometimes it just skips a few times, other times it skips continuously and other times to says "Unable To Read Disc". I'd like to bring it in but the issue is sooo random that I'm afraid I'll get the usual "we can't find the problem" from the dealer. I have checked my MP3 CD when i got home and I played it on the surround sound system for 5 hours non-stop and it didn't skip. I also had it in my smart for the past year and it didn't skip


    2. Washer nozzle aimed too low: My driver's side is aimed a little too low. The factory setting had it basically aiming at the driver's side wiper. That doesn't quite help. Had the dealer do an adjustment but I can't seem much of an improvement. I was expecting it to spray at least 1/3 up the windshield but it's barely making it over the wiper at its resting position


    3. Got a taste of winter last week. it was as cold as -5°C. Left the car outside at a (Canadian) Thanksgiving dinner. When I went out later that night to show the car to a few friends, I noticed that the moonroof was creaking quite a bit. I know the cold and ice can do strange things but I don't recall the Camry ever doing that.

    4. My tonneau cover doesn't retract all the way on its own when it's cold. It takes a little pushing to have it retract all the way into the cover. Normally, I just guide it in and it retracts itself all the way in. This one leaves about 2 inches that I have to manually push in.



    Anybody else have these cold weather issues? (CD player isn't cold weather related)
     
  2. fuzzy1

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    (1) No skips on my CD, after many many hours on a homemade WMA collection. But with a few hundred tracks on it, it takes about 15 seconds from power-on to making any sound.

    (2) Now that you mention it, the washer nozzle does seem low, but so far not bad enough to bother me.
     
  3. G3priusV

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    I haven't seen any problem with CD. I haven't seen that much cold/ snowy day this year yet and I don't have moon roof. But I do agree with washer being too low. And I want to add a squeaking problem after driving on a wet road. Have you experienced that?
     
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    Tideland,

    As far as the moonroof creaking goes, the Camry's moonroof is a conventional design whereas the Prius' moonroof is of a panoramic design.

    The conventional one is a cutout surrounded by metal. The pano one isn't a full-frame design and has to rely more heavily on gaskets for sealing. It's also more prone to flexing (and subsequent noise) by design. Nature of the beast, unfortunately.

    (NB: You think yours is bad? Go drive a Pontiac G6 with the panoramic roof -- you can't hear yourself think in that car!)
     
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    I play MP3 and store bought CDs in the CD changer with no issues.

    Having said that, in my previous car (BMW) the CD drive was a bit sensitive (also skipped on occasion), and the solution was to burn CDs at as slow a speed as possible, and I never had an issue after that. Give it a try.
     
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    The washers are designed to work best when moving. The air flowing up the windshield spreads the solution up the windshield. If the nozzles were set higher the lower part of the windshield would not get get wet at all when moving.
     
  7. Tideland Prius

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    If you're referring to the brakes, I think that's normal. Mine are squeaking.

    Good point. Thanks!

    Thanks! Mine's MP3 though, not WMA.

    I burned them at 8KB/s. I'll try the slowest speed then.

    I suppose but on our 2005, if I spray while driving, the top of the passenger side wiper sweep doesn't get sprayed so it ends up wiping dry unless I spray again at the next traffic light.
     
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    That sounds like the compressed audio bit rate. You want the slowest CD burn rate, which is a completely unrelated parameter and should be in Mbits/s even at the slowest 1X rate.
     
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    No problems with my CD's at all, but have had a share of them bad from when someone burned me some copies! :(

    The Washers are OK, a little low but when your driving at highway speeds they are fine.

    No sunroof but it doesn't sound out of the norm with some cars.

    Tonneau Cover is just cold not big deal really...once your car warms up that is...but you could try a little silicone spray perhaps??
     
  10. Tideland Prius

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    Sorry, I meant 8x lol.
     
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    Ok, is my car the only one that has a tonneau cover issue?

    Now that it's -10°C, my tonneau cover will not retract. It retracts about halfway then stops. I can't even feed in the rest of it.
     
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    Hi Tideland
    I have the same issue on my 2010 Prius. Even at minus 5 (C) the tonneau cover will not retract more than 60 %, and I have to manually feed in but not all of it. I will ask the dealer if this is "normal" and I have a strange feeling what the answer will be.....
    In terms of washer spray, the pressure seems very little and when doing slow or normal speed, water will hit the wiper arm and only the indirect spray will reach the lower part of the windshield on both driver`s and passenger side. There is no adjustment ( i am used to the steel ball system which can be adjusted with a small needle) for this system, only a small rectangular opening in the plastic housing. Very unusual compared to other cars i I`ve had.
    But, the Prius i quite "unusual" in many aspects, so maybe this is just one of them....
     
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    I noticed my car does something odd right around the 43 mph speed when slowing down via regen braking. Does anyone else notice that it seems to re-engage the trans briefly at this speed? It's almost like in a manual, letting the clutch out a smidge to where it catches, then releasing it really quickly. I really wasn't quite sure what to search for on this one, so if it's been discussed, please let me know.
     
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    My dad had this issue on his 2006 Highlander Hybrid. Sometimes in really cold weather it would not retract more than 30%. So he pulled it out all the way (it actually goes past the back of the trunk door!), then he sprayed silicone spray in the sides where the cover retracts into, where the gear mechanisms are on the left and right side. Left it for about 2 minutes, then he let it retract. Then voila, it retracts no problemo, for years now! Just a thought in case you wish to try!

    If you are not happy with the height of your Prius' washer nozzle height, do what I did with my G1. Get a pin (you know the kind your mother used to sow your pants when you ripped them! Joking!), and put the tip into the nozzle. Then make a very minute upward adjustment. Trust me, a little movement goes a long way. Now I have my G1 Prius that have dual nozzles on each side, and each nozzle squirts fluid at different heights on both wiper sides, and I get a complete clean with very little fluid usage. I found it saved me at least a couple of bottles each winter.
     
  15. Tideland Prius

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    Thanks for your input! Would be happy to know what your dealer says about the issue. Yes, my spray does hit the wiper arm.

    Above that speed, the engine is probably pumping (it's on but not using any fuel...) so when it's below that threshold speed, it can turn the engine completely off so it'll fire up the engine for a split second then shut it off. That's what you're experiencing. The reason for the engine being "on" above that speed when you're coasting is to counter the speed on the electric motor (sorry for the poor explanation). In other words, it's preventing the electric motor from overrevving.

    don't have silicon spray but will try the pin method! I had the dealer adjust it already but it didn't seem any different to me.
     
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    Hi Tideland!
    Sorry for late response as for the above mentioned subjects...I have been talking to my dealer, and received a different set of nozzles. They have 3 different types, marked with one, two or three lines ( into plastic material)and all have a different spray angle. I received no. 3 and they will spray over the wiper arm and so, more fluid will hit the windsield. My original nozzles were no 1.
    As to the Tonneau cover, the answer was as expected...normal in cold temp as the plastic ( vinyl) will be harder and spring tension lower ...Not my experience from other cars having analoge system though, but maybe I will persuade my dealer to replace it. They claimed no other customers have mentioned this issue, despite of a long and very cold winter so far this year...So, my Tonneau must be a poor sample and then should be replaced on warranty !
     
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    Keep the washer nozzles low. It pisses me off when on the freeway the car in front activates the washers and water gets sprayed all over my car.
     
  18. Tideland Prius

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    lol. Yeah but not when it barely clears the wiper arm but I know what you mean. Part of the strong pressure is to ensure it works at high speeds (e.g. highway driving)

    Hi Tore!

    Not at all. Hmm, I didn't realise there were 3 versions. (or do you mean Toyota vehicles use 1 of 3 designs that Toyota makes?). Did you read my thread on the washer fluid oddity? I ran out of fluid, put about... hmm how big is a Gatorade bottle? 700mL? I put one Gatorade bottle of fluid in and suddenly the washer sprayed with high pressure (I had the moonroof open and I got some sprayed on me). I was pleasantly surprised! I have no idea what caused the change in behaviour (unless it's the amount of fluid in the washer bottle that affects pressure. It could very well be. But that also means my bottle wasn't full when I took delivery if it was already spraying the washer arm).


    Ok, fair enough. This is the first car I've driven in -20°C or lower with a tonneau cover.
     
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    I've had this problem with inconsistent wiper fluid pressure/height too... it's really been my only problem with the 2010 Prius.