Is the site for Prius owners or Prius bashers?

I think you misread Tony's message.

I think think the second paragraph is NOT directed at the "vigilantes" but instead at the trolls. I could be wrong about that...Though, I know for a fact that Tony is also trying to tell all of us that if we contribute to the troll's antics by pouring gasoline on their tiny troll fires, the vigilantes could be rebuffed too...it doesn't do any good to try to beat them down with aggressive antics, that just fans their tiny troll flames.

(I'm as guilty as any of the vigilantes. I am not one to cause trouble, I'm more of a bridge-builder in real life. But, I dont' tolerate abuse of others or stand for injustice, that's when i typically jump in and, unfortunately, my normal course of action is to use word-violence against their word-violence.)

 

Well Shawn, that's a good question, isn't it? Although you and I don't personally agree on things 100% of the time, we appear to be able to keep it civil

Some of the recent threads/posts were downright hilarious. I personally am still waiting to hear how one can do selective oxidation without catalysts. Apparently, everything I learned as an engineer was wrong!

Imagine how much money the petrochemical industry alone could save just by not having to dink around with catalysts! Billions a year .... think of all the jobs saved.

It's so funny, I need a barley pop

 

Sometimes I slip and say things I shouldn't say. Tony should put my over his knees and smack my bare bottom. Oops that is probably a bit naughty for PC.

 

Wow. That mental image was ... disturbing

First of all, wouldn't you squash Tony?

 

I appreciate people with different viewpoints that can express them in a civil way.
However, when there is someone posting rudely, name calling or such, the worst thing to do is respond in kind.
If it is a borderline case, give them the benifit of the doubt and respond with facts and reason. They will show themselves as a troll soon enough if that is what they are.
And if they truly are looking for information/input they AND we may learn something.

 

One of the posts I responded to earlier today (OK I admit I was a little mean) was someone trying to drive traffic to his site. You can tell they don't want conversation. They paste the name of their website in a post respond a couple times and then disappear. You can tell they have no intention of discussion. They are just trying to drive traffic to their site. As long as people are going to their site with a unique IP address they are able to generate income. Instead of advertising their site and generating traffic the old fashioned way they come over here paste their site name in a bunch of emails and try to make us mad and go over to their site.

 

Civility is absent from most discourse in our "new world order."

 

I can assure you we could care less about traffic at ps.org, we get plenty
most of us really just want to discuss and debate with people with a diff. view, there no hidden motives.

 

Fair enough. I apologize to the ps and pc contributors I offended in any way.

 

New is the key word. Troll implies someone from the outside fishing for a bite. Unforunately, if you frequent other sites you'll notice that there are some from the inside dropping bait... hoping to entice... but they never get that label. It's causes confusion when they routinely witness feeding and are now on a forum wants to avoid it in all flavors.

Oddly, some forums actually encourage behavior like that. They want lively discussions and allow participation well beyond the tolerances we are use to.

What I get a kick out of is how incredibly shallow some of their arguments are. The data is cherry-picked, commented are insulting, and questions are evaded. It's pretty easy to see that their attempt to greenwash will simply burnout if given the opportunity to takes its course.
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Once again i can assure you that i am not trying to divert traffic to our site. how many times must i try to get you to understand this???There was some bad happenings this week, and i admit, i was angry about it at first, but have taken a step outside of the box and put some different thought into the whole mess. Im trying to be civil, with everyone, including you sir. I dont know what your problem is, but it shouldnt be with me. We get PLENTY of traffic at our site( wont mention the name anymore). Please let this dead horse lie.. there is no need to beat it anymore. :thumb:

 

This site is for Prius owners. I thank all who are helpful, and I try to be helpful to others in need to questions about their Prius.

Great site and a great car.

dbcassidy

 

I suppose that's for me. I was hoping that PC'ers would be open minded enough to listen. At least those I talk to in person seem willing to listen. Some are even asking for data from non-Prius owners. Are these requests from them simply in jest with no intention of reading the replies to their questions?

 

Why do you make that assumption?
The statement was speaking only of those who refuse to listen. If you are one of those, I guess it was meant for you.
However, from what I have seen of your posts, you are not one of those that refuse to listen. So I don't think it was directed at you.