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Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by Jimmie84, Nov 19, 2009.

  1. radioprius1

    radioprius1 Climate Conspirisist

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    Re: So called "scientists" fake data to promote GW religion - for years!

    No one is denying that global warming occurs. We are just saying that humans may not be contributing to it as much as some people would have you believe. That doesn't mean we mistreat the environment, etc. As I said in another post, I drive a hybrid, I want to get an EV, I use a compost and I'm looking at having solar panels put on my house. Just because someone doesn't believe in AGW doesn't mean we abuse the environment.
     
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    Re: So called "scientists" fake data to promote GW religion - for years!

    But again, no answer, no solution, just more crap.

    Has the love of small dogs been proven to retain heat on the earth? It has been proven that CO2 retains heat on the Earth, if there was no CO2 the earth would be much colder.

    In the early 1960s, C.D. Keeling measured the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere: it was rising fast. Researchers began to take an interest, struggling to understand how the level of carbon dioxide had changed in the past, and how the level was influenced by chemical and biological forces. They found that the gas plays a crucial role in climate change, so that the rising level could gravely affect our future. The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

    Greenhouse gases naturally blanket the Earth and keep it about 33 degrees Celsius warmer than it would be without these gases in the atmosphere. Greenhouse Gases
     
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    Re: So called "scientists" fake data to promote GW religion - for years!

    And I commend you for your efforts.
    Docbooks on the other hand, is just a troll. I am a little slow but I have fianlly come to the conclusion I will miss out on nothing if I put him on ignore, so I shall.
     
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    F8L Protecting Habitat & AG Lands

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    Re: So called "scientists" fake data to promote GW religion - for years!

    Now that was just plain ignorant and you know it. I believe I am done trying to help you out. You are turning out to be no better than the &%$#^ that play in Fred's House of Politics to complete their existance in life (Amped, dberman, docbrooks, etc.).
     
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    radioprius1 Climate Conspirisist

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    Sorry I can't accept on faith something you have no proof of.
     
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    patsparks An Aussie perspective

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    What about on the balance of probability?
     
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    radioprius1 Climate Conspirisist

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    To be honest it doesn't matter. I already do everything I can to help the environment. Whether or not I think humans are contributing significantly to global warming will not affect how I live my life.
     
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    Re: So called "scientists" fake data to promote GW religion - for years!

    And I would submit that equally with you -- no answer, no solution, more crap. And, if there was no Sun the earth would be much colder as well. And if my aunt had wheels she'd be a trolly. You sir or madam, are also a waste of time. Have fun stopping the climate cycles -- my bet is they continue.
     
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    Re: So called "scientists" fake data to promote GW religion - for years!

    radioprius1 is a denialist posing as neutral. He/she is not genuine and has done nothing but talk in circles. Science background? Hah! Either this is false as well or someone needs to request a refund for their education.

    Join the Powerstroke folks on the ingore list, radioprius1! :cheer2:
     
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    Didn't know you cared :kiss:
     
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    Re: So called "scientists" fake data to promote GW religion - for years!

    The only denialists are the ones ignoring the subject of this thread.
     
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    Re: So called "scientists" fake data to promote GW religion - for years!

    That's a pity, because it looks likely that Earth's average temperature will rise by at least 2'C. When that happens Greenland and/or West Antarctica will melt, and sea level will rise by 20 to 40 feet. Sticking our heads into sand does not help.
     
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    Ah Richard - still placing your faith in models and model builders. Have you learned nothing from ClimateGate? LOL.

    By the way, I don't know any but you and Algore that believes a 2 degree C rise in temperature will raise sea levels by anywhere remotely close to 20-40 feet. Even the IPCC says at most it's about 2 feet.
     
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    Re: So called "scientists" fake data to promote GW religion - for years!

    That is why AGW is a religion. There is no need for proof - all you need is belief.

    It's like the Wizard of Oz - only with the warmers, now that the man behind the curtain is exposed as a fraud, they keep on believing he's really a wizard. Filler up with more purple Koolaid!
     
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    Re: So called "scientists" fake data to promote GW religion - for years!

    There is need for proof, but it's silly to wait the hundreds of years it will take to confirm the theories and trends...a point where it may be too late.

    If someone comes in with chest pain, shortness of breath, and abnormal EKG and risk factors for a heart attack should I wait until I have proof that they're having a heart attack before I start treatment? I think not, b/c by the time I have proof they could be dead. Might I be wrong...sometimes...but generally there's no harm, or at least less than if I'd have ignored obvious symptoms.

    We have suggestive symptoms and need to begin treating the patient/planet...if we don't the consequences could be dire.
     
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    Re: So called "scientists" fake data to promote GW religion - for years!

    Hundreds? How about thousands, or even hundreds of thousands of years -- about right for a naural cycle to unfold. And I notice a common thread in the way we need to "begin treating the patient/planet" -- Massive taxes to pay for all the "fixes". But warmists find nothing repugnant at all with stealing from the productive to feed the beast to try to fix the unfixable.
     
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    I love this!!
     
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    And this has meaning because...... :focus:
     
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    Oh, we're back to the massive taxes? Well, since we're talking about proving things and 'hard evidence'... where is the conclusive proof and hard evidence that massive tax increases would occur under the proposed legislation? I'm still waiting..
     
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    Laugh while you can, boys. Don't you have children? or any reason to care about the world after the ends of your own lives? That's sad.